"Yasuo shield makes him annoying in early game"

KONO RUBICK DA··5 votes·1,326 views

he has to walk 5900 units with a 345 base movement speed. according to league of legends wiki, 345 ms is 345 units in 2 seconds. Which means he will need nearly 30 seconds to have it back.

nice try, might as well QQ on Rumble shield since it has 6 seconds cooldown

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DrCyanide5 votes

Movement speed is a champion statistic that represents the rate at which a champion travels across a map. One movement speed point translates to one game distance unit traveled per second (as a frame of reference, Teemo's's diameter is 100 units). For example, a champion with 300 movement speed will be able to walk over three Teemos in one second.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Movement_Speed

Direct quote from the wiki, which means that Yasuo's getting his shield back every 15 seconds, not 30.

It's worth pointing out that Rumble has to anticipate/react to your attack to shield against it, while Yasuo's just activates.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Which makes it even weaker as he has no control about it. Throw a basic at him, whatch the shield proc and vanish, then blow him up.

DrCyanide1 votes

Alternatively, it makes it even stronger. Surprise stun him and he automatically gets a shield to mitigate the coming damage.

A good Yasuo backs off in laning phase if his shield gets popped, because he knows he'll get it back soon enough and can go aggressive then.

I don't think anyone complains about a good <insert champion name here> player beats them. It's when it's a mediocre or bad player beats you because of the tools available to a champion that people start complaining.

O Fallen Scholar1 votes

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http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Movement_Speed

Direct quote from the wiki, which means that Yasuo's getting his shield back every 15 seconds, not 30.

It's worth pointing out that Rumble has to anticipate/react to your attack to shield against it, while Yasuo's just activates.

Same goes for Riven. This circlejerk never dies.

GroundRuleDouble5 votes

You're also forgetting about his dash, which increases the rate at which his shield is up, and he can dash over and over again with no penalty.

All this being said....one auto attack, and the shield is down. I play Brand, so I just AA Yas when he has his shield up, wait for it to fall off, then burst him.

And yes, you are wrong about the move speed thing. The move speed is how many units a champ can move in one second (not two).

SwapShadows2 votes

who still complains about yas? lmao

Scryer2 votes

Yasuo is annoying in general.

Incognonymous1 votes

Doesn't it have like 100 HP at level 1? Isn't that the highest shield in the game at level 1, outside of like, Jarvan, surrounded by the enemy?

BakedLotion1 votes

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Doesn't it have like 100 HP at level 1? Isn't that the highest shield in the game at level 1, outside of like, Jarvan, surrounded by the enemy?

RivenEkko

Incognonymous1 votes

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RivenEkko

Riven, I'll grant you. Ekko with AP runes/masteries. I still take offense at people downplaying Yasuo's shield. It's not insignificant.

BakedLotion1 votes

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Riven, I'll grant you. Ekko with AP runes/masteries. I still take offense at people downplaying Yasuo's shield. It's not insignificant.

I never downplayed it. I was just pointing out flaws in ur argument

Incognonymous1 votes

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I never downplayed it. I was just pointing out flaws in ur argument

There are no flaws, nor an argument. I asked a question. You answered. My point, if the question could be construed as rhetorical, still stands.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

Yeah lets QQ about Rumble's shield which requires your brain to actually use, rather than sitting in lane running in a circle waiting for someone to hit you with their only poke so you can laugh and say "AHAHAHAHAHA CAN'T TOUCH THIS"

Manwalrus1 votes

It's a tiny shield lol

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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It's a tiny shield lol

True, but its generally enough to block at least one poke ability. Well, unless its a mid-game Veigar Q... then say byebye to 1/3 of your health bar, shield or not, lol.

Manwalrus1 votes

What about Orianna QW AzirWQ BrandW AnnieQ or W AniviaQ or E or R ChogathQ or W DianaQ KarthusQ APKogMaw E or R MordekaiserE Kayleempowered autos Velkoz Q or W Varus Q Viktor E Xerath Q or W TwistedFate Q or W SyndraQ and Ziggs Q?

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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What about Orianna QW AzirWQ BrandW AnnieQ or W AniviaQ or E or R ChogathQ or W DianaQ KarthusQ APKogMaw E or R MordekaiserE Kayleempowered autos Velkoz Q or W Varus Q Viktor E Xerath Q or W TwistedFate Q or W SyndraQ and Ziggs Q?

Actually a lot of those abilities yes. Cho'gath's, probably one or two soldier AA's from Azir, Ziggs Q, a Karthus Q, etc. And a flaw with your post was most of those are slow skillshots(Anivia ball, Diana Q, Karthus Q, Kog'maw R, Varus Q, etc.) and he can dodge them with his E, or heck, just walk away, pretty easily.

Manwalrus1 votes

You're kidding me right? It's a 100-510 health shield, and that 510 doesn't happen until late game, do you think that cho'gath's rupture that at max rank deals 375 base damage and scales 1 for 1 will be totally negated by a yasuo shield? Second of all, Azir, his soldiers deal a MINIMUM of 60 damage plus .4 AP scaling meaning soldiers at level 1 with just one auto will get rid of 60% of the shield not to mention that you can usually get another auto in before the enmy gets out of range PLUS the minimun of 65 damage with .5 AP scaling on his Q, plus the slow. Ziggs bomb does a MINIMUM of 75 damage plus .65 AP scaling. I'll give you karthus Q early game but it's so spammable it doesn't really matter. In case you didn't notice, they're called "skill" shots meaning they require skill to land.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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You're kidding me right? It's a 100-510 health shield, and that 510 doesn't happen until late game, do you think that cho'gath's rupture that at max rank deals 375 base damage and scales 1 for 1 will be totally negated by a yasuo shield? Second of all, Azir, his soldiers deal a MINIMUM of 60 damage plus .4 AP scaling meaning soldiers at level 1 with just one auto will get rid of 60% of the shield not to mention that you can usually get another auto in before the enmy gets out of range PLUS the minimun of 65 damage with .5 AP scaling on his Q, plus the slow. Ziggs bomb does a MINIMUM of 75 damage plus .65 AP scaling. I'll give you karthus Q early game but it's so spammable it doesn't really matter. In case you didn't notice, they're called "skill" shots meaning they require skill to land.

Okay, so lets say it does delete your shield. It would delete any other shield too, unless it was some big-ass shield like from a support, like a Janna shield. Riven shield? Nope. I've calculated the average build's shield to be 499 by rank 5. Rumble shield? Maybe, but I doubt it. And same with most other shields.

And to add, those shields actually require you to REACT instead of running in circles screaming ring around the rosy.

Manwalrus1 votes

Except that those shields have other uses, Janna shield? Grants AD, Riven shield? scales with AD and is part of a dash Rumble shield? Speed up. They're all useful for other things besides a shield, not to mention Riven and Rumble don't get punished at all for using it because they don't drain a recource, while Yasuo only gets a shield, nothing else, doesn't grant additional effects, doesn't shield for much, and doesn't last a long time. And instead of having a cooldown, you have to run a set distance which takes longer than the cd of all those other shields. Not to mention that you say that none of those shields would be used Proactively only Reactively. Honestly this:

And to add, those shields actually require you to REACT instead of running in circles screaming ring around the rosy.

Makes no sense at all because they need to press a button when it's off cd and yasuo's just pops when he takes damage, but when Yas loses his shield he doesn't wait for it to come off cd like every other shield, he actually has to earn it back.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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Except that those shields have other uses, Janna shield? Grants AD, Riven shield? scales with AD and is part of a dash Rumble shield? Speed up. They're all useful for other things besides a shield, not to mention Riven and Rumble don't get punished at all for using it because they don't drain a recource, while Yasuo only gets a shield, nothing else

As well as double crit scaling. "nothing else" lel ok And Yasuo's shield drains nothing too. Just isn't on-command but rather when something hits him, and has to charge up. So yeah, he gets a shield, a wall that blocks every projectile in the game, and tons of mobility for defense. And he has the damage of an assassin. One shield is bad enough but you want it to be buffed or something? LOL.

Makes no sense at all because they need to press a button when it's off cd and yasuo's just pops when he takes damage, but when Yas loses his shield he doesn't wait for it to come off cd like every other shield, he actually has to earn it back.

"Earn it back" Basically walks around. Its like a cooldown that doesn't, y'know, cooldown, if you're AFK. If you're there and actually walk around and use your E then it charges up as if it were just a long-cooldown shield.

Manwalrus1 votes

I'm not talking about the passive, I'm talking about the shield. His W his shield and his mobility all have counterplay. Also where did I say I wanted him buffed? I'm pretty sure I stated multiple times he's balanced. Seems like you want him nerfed, that's why you're here qqing isn't it? He has to earn it back more than any of the other champions you cited lol Also, he has to walk, for I believe 15 seconds to get it back so 15 seconds where it's not up for you to kill him. Stop trying to validate your argument by putting words in my mouth.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

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I'm not talking about the passive, I'm talking about the shield. His W his shield and his mobility all have counterplay. Also where did I say I wanted him buffed? I'm pretty sure I stated multiple times he's balanced. Seems like you want him nerfed, that's why you're here qqing isn't it? He has to earn it back more than any of the other champions you cited lol Also, he has to walk, for I believe 15 seconds to get it back so 15 seconds where it's not up for you to kill him. Stop trying to validate your argument by putting words in my mouth.

The shield? Not the passive? Yeah, it blocks EVERY PROJECTILE IN THE GAME. If that isn't enough for you I don't know what the hell is.

And, if you don't want him buffed why are you qq'ing to me? I simply stated that Rumble's shield has to have a minor amount of brain power whereas Yasuo's requires him to walk around in circles and get hit to use.

And "earning it back", as I said earlier, includes walking around. In a circle. Or possibly dashing! :O

"Stop trying to validate your argument by putting words in my mouth." "Seems like you want him nerfed, that's why you're here qqing isn't it?"

I never qq'd nor asked for a nerf. Hypocrite.

Meep Man1 votes

Yasuo shield is still a problem? Who says that? Also, if you have 300 movement speed, you travel 300 units every second, not 2 seconds. Otherwise Gragas' 400-unit radius ultimate would be HUGE, at least with those measurements.

nordking1 votes

i hate him every game someone picks yasuo its boring

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