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Old Master tier player leaving after 1 game of dynamic queue

KONO RUBICK DA··152 votes·7,852 views

Now you probably don't care, but i'm writing this to express my feelings and relax. i don't know if it's definitive, since riot has a 0.000000000001% chance to revert dynamic queue.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/21335235#ranked-stats

Like lolking is showing it, i'm playing this game since season 1 and only played seriously after season 3, i achieved diamond and then master in season 5. Now i'm trying to play in season 6 , and dynamic queue is here. I played one game that showed me the future i was going to have.

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/fr/#match-details/EUW1/2691157393/24826880?tab=overview

In fact, cailyn+nautilus+nidalee were premades, caitlyn did a double kill bot thanks to nidalee at 10 min or something, then a triple kill because poppy came to suicide. I couldn't kill caitlyn in teamfight because she were protected by nautilus and nidalee with rylai, I COULDN'T TELL MY LUX TO ULTI EACH TIME I DIVED AND REMOVED 1/2 OF CAITLYN'S HP. _** i told him in the chat but he didn't answer: -maybe he didn't saw it -maybe he is idiot -OR maybe he saw it but had some shit to do in teamfight that he couldn't also see what i was doing, if we were premade i would tell him because i can't use the chat while we are fighting.

This is what dynamic queue is, a massive imbalance between solo players and premades, the skillest premade win the game.

"But zeus, you won the game!!!"

hell yea i won, because i was a former good player against retarded gold players. Like you can see in the link They had 12K gold advantage and prefered to sucide in our base (trying to kill us at fontain) instead of finishing. Then i caught them all one by one with renekton feeding my team and they did every time retarded plays like fizz trying to do whatever at baron 1v5. I DON'T WANT TO WIN BECAUSE MY ENEMIES ARE BAD.

Now imagine if i played against people as skilled as me , there would be no way to win, playing against a premade of 3 should not be possible i already had to deal with premade of 2 bot lane . this game showed me the future if i would play alone as a bruiser, i would be stuck with no help against a whole team, **i would depend on my own premade **(or not since it's possible to play 3 man premade vs 5 solo players) ** there is nothing worse than not being able to change the game.** , riot said that soolo players have a disadventage time to play basketball and yugioh instead of league.

122 Comments

TSwift Is Sexy78 votes

"You all like dynamicQ cuz it's the most played queue" - rito 2016

KONO RUBICK DA72 votes

"93% of the players like dynamic queue " -rito

"we asked 5 players" -rito

TSwift Is Sexy70 votes

The failure of dynamic queue can be summed up by the fact that rito had to get rid of teambuilder, solo queue, ranked 3s, AND ranked 5s in order for people to play dynamic queue.

Fovere34 votes

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The failure of dynamic queue can be summed up by the fact that rito had to get rid of teambuilder, solo queue, ranked 3s, AND ranked 5s in order for people to play dynamic queue.

And the fact that they have to go back on all the DQ and champ select features just to make it work.

Champ select? Yeah!...but...if it doesnt work we're going to force you into a random role.

At least with team builder (and before) you had a random assortment of players/role preferences and could negotiate.

ranked with friends?! Yeah!....but...once you climb to a certain point we have to limit the group size because the disparity is so massive and frequent even we can't pretend it doesnt exist.

Elo Hell gg6 votes

they had to remove dominion too

Maszii6 votes

HAHAHAHAHAH i love this one

Death by Kayn3 votes

Asking 5 players doesn't equate to 93% lmao

Schoenberg17 votes

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Asking 5 players doesn't equate to 93% lmao

It is Riot we are talking about...

Troll for Trump11 votes

You missed the joke

A Liberal14 votes

"Your complaints are invalid because the boards are a small sample size" - rito

Keevalroy10 votes

Community: But if you asked 5 people, how did you get 93%? Riot: Our data shows this data is correct. It's been added to our data. Community: http://i.imgur.com/Cxagv.jpg

KarKzz3 votes

Riot : Do you like to play with your friends ? 93 % of players : Yeah , we do !

Riot thinking : Good, 93% of players like dynamic Q !

....

Players : We don't like dynamic queue ! Riot : Our data show that you are wrong, and that you likes it. Players : But .. Riot : I SAID, YOU LIKES IT, I HAVE A PHD AND OUR DATAS ARE 1110% CORRECT, I CAN'T BE WRONG. YOU ARE A VOCAL MINORITY.

Kudrov8 votes

In the Video, Lobbster, the main dev for DynamicQ said : "we never had that much peoples playing ranked right now" to trying to tell us there never been that much players playing since DynamicQ come out like it was a great thing.

well no shit sherlock whats left?

SoloQ GONE, Ranked's 5 GONE, TwistedTreeline ranked GONE, TeamBuilder GONE, Dominon GONE.

is it me or the next STEP is League of Legend GONE.

Arakadia3 votes

I bet in 2017 Twisted Treeline won't exist.

ACENOX19 votes

What a good match making unranked first game + 3 gold+ 1 plat against premade of 3 plat +2 gold

g²

Pale Pirate12 votes

No, fuck this. I support riot on this one. Not because I like dynamic queue or anything, but because you people don't even BOTHER to listen to them, yet you expect them to listen to you.

https://am-a.akamaihd.net/image?f=https://news-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/articles/2016/may/DQA/graph-winratesforgroups.png

Now downvote me as much as you please.

Best princess EU1 votes

Where did you find this?

Nameless Voice3 votes

Riot posted it yesterday. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/dynamic-queue-and-future-league

GaleWinUnleashed7 votes

I don't want to have matches forcibly "balanced" by introducing an artificial MMR disadvantage for the team with the premade. I want both teams to have players of the same skill level.

BloodyTompon7 votes

You already do have MMR offsets in League games and have for years.

GaleWinUnleashed3 votes

It's not ideal, though. What seems to be going on is artificial balancing of the statistics over time, not balance for each individual game. Premades vs non-premades should be made to happen much less frequently.

KONO RUBICK DA20 votes

because you take bronze into diamond 1 into one pool. How the hell are we supposed to know if it isn't like this: bronze 3 vs 5 solo players having 20% win rate diamond 1 3 vs 5 solo players 90% win rate????

Piano Max9 votes

Zeus Ult Now!

MetalGearTeemu2 votes

R>S>R>S>R>S>R>S>R>S

CRACK-CRACK-CRACK-CRACK

Mandang08 votes

"but it's 50% winrate, so it's balanced" - ritogames

draakar5 votes

{quoted}

Now you probably don't care, but i'm writing this to express my feelings and relax. i don't know if it's definitive, since riot has a 0.000000000001% chance to revert dynamic queue.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/21335235#ranked-stats

Like lolking is showing it, i'm playing this game since season 1 and only played seriously after season 3, i achieved diamond and then master in season 5. Now i'm trying to play in season 6 , and dynamic queue is here. I played one game that showed me the future i was going to have.

http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/fr/#match-details/EUW1/2691157393/24826880?tab=overview

In fact, cailyn+nautilus+nidalee were premades, caitlyn did a double kill bot thanks to nidalee at 10 min or something, then a triple kill because poppy came to suicide. I couldn't kill caitlyn in teamfight because she were protected by nautilus and nidalee with rylai, I COULDN'T TELL MY LUX TO ULTI EACH TIME I DIVED AND REMOVED 1/2 OF CAITLYN'S HP. _** i told him in the chat but he didn't answer: -maybe he didn't saw it -maybe he is idiot -OR maybe he saw it but had some shit to do in teamfight that he couldn't also see what i was doing, if we were premade i would tell him because i can't use the chat while we are fighting.

This is what dynamic queue is, a massive imbalance between solo players and premades, the skillest premade win the game.

"But zeus, you won the game!!!"

hell yea i won, because i was a former good player against retarded gold players. Like you can see in the link They had 12K gold advantage and prefered to sucide in our base (trying to kill us at fontain) instead of finishing. Then i caught them all one by one with renekton feeding my team and they did every time retarded plays like fizz trying to do whatever at baron 1v5. I DON'T WANT TO WIN BECAUSE MY ENEMIES ARE BAD.

Now imagine if i played against people as skilled as me , there would be no way to win, playing against a premade of 3 should not be possible i already had to deal with premade of 2 bot lane . this game showed me the future if i would play alone as a bruiser, i would be stuck with no help against a whole team, **i would depend on my own premade **(or not since it's possible to play 3 man premade vs 5 solo players) there is nothing worse than not being able to change the game. , time to play basketball and yugioh instead of league.

Again yet another example of how adding voice communication into the game would fix some of these problems.

YCitizenSnipsY1 votes

What make you think other want to listen to you shot call? Especially if you are for solo queue and want to be matched with 4 strangers. I don't know you and I don't trust you, so I'm not going to listen to you because you aren't Hai or Aphroo. Voice communication wont fix anything because most of you that want it are under the delusion that other want to here you trying to tell other how to play.

Its already easy to type key information in short sentences, and has been done so for years, even in the real indicator of skill solo queue.

Zerolocke5 votes

Already know people are going to hate me for this. So you're going to stop playing because people used team work to win a team based game?

Your story sounds like a normal game solo,duo, dq. Even the part where they threw because it was still your placement game and you were playing vs much lower people that often forgot how to win a game.

To you I can simply say your story was the same story we heard years ago when it was solo queue.

KONO RUBICK DA3 votes

What should i do? imagine you were playing renekton in my game, how would you manage to win if the enemy team didn't suicide at our base? You can't protect your carry because A- Renekton can't do shit for a carry when there is fizz and annie in the enemy team B- your carry had less items than the enemy carry

and then you can't kill caitlyn because she is protected and you don't get help to kill her. One time i caught caitlyn ultying in the fight but nautilus turned and hooked me...

that's why i left because i hate the idea of playing against this in diamond

Darth StepVader3 votes

For people thinking "how could he have realised dq would suck only through one game?" , well the answer is simple. This guy is a high elo player with countless games of experience. Considering these, it's safe to assume that he immediately was able to forsee the terrible imbalance it would bring among teams, the whole new level of toxicity and stupidity, the ultimate butchering of MMR, stupidly long queue times for high elo games and ofc the general deterioration of the game caused by people that are in a rank they do not belong facing the most demanding season of all in terms of avoiding mistakes, making the right calls and trying to think through all those rediculous amounts of damage.

There, explained it, in one sentence no less. It's like one of those games that your team is slightly behind but you see they keep repeating the same mistakes over and over. Well, you kknow it's best to surr but they think they stand a chance with their current behaviour. It's more or less the same with Riot and this guy saw through it like 5 months ago....

Masochist6 votes

For a bunch of people crying about "representative samples" - being 20,000 or so people crying and wailing and moaning about Dyanamic queue, you further prove you people have no idea what that means.

One game isn't enough to form any sort of valid opinion.

A Chaotic Mind3 votes

http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=achaoticmind

Quitted after 200+ games of DQ. I just felt I had no impact in half of my games (win or losses). It's just not fun being smashed or carried by premades because they can simply comunicate better. Also the ranking system means nothing now so couldn't give a shit abut the game (and they closed teambuilder, wich was my main mode for the last year+).

I quitted after a polish guy flamed in post-game's chat and everyone reported him. btw I didn't quit because of flaming. I quitted because when I was going to click again the play button, I got the message that the flamer got banned. I burst out in laugh (his flame was fun, a mix of polish and broken english) genuinely happy for the first time since 100+ ranked games. And then I realized. That was more fun than playing the game. I closed the client and unistalled League.

Masochist1 votes

Still a tiny, tiny sample size out of the tens of millions of games played a day.

I go through periods like yours all the time. Every few moths I'll stop playing League.

Then I'll come back and it'll be fresh and new and exciting.

This happens with ANY game you play that you have played for years, period.

Xeruon3 votes

Quick Story:

I actually know a guy from real life that's Diamond I in League, we played norms together and just messed around with off meta shit whenever we did. One day, I decided to invite 2 people I had on my friends list who happened to be high bronze - low silver, can't quite remember. After the game, they added my D1 friend on skype, and one of them actually offered him money in exchange for him Duo boosting up the ladder. He accepted because he needed the money at the time, the bronze-silver player was boosted to Plat 4.

When witnessing something like that, and hearing how common this is with the state of DynQ's existance, ranked really doesn't seem appealing.

Oh well, I guess I'll have some actual fun in Overwatch, the only character-based online game that doesn't want me to drink bleach every time I'm killed because someone got one lucky kill and snowballed out of controll, and suddenly is 3 levels and 2 items ahead of everyone else.

Moon4Lord3 votes

hell yea i won, because i was a former good player against retarded gold players.

lol goldies vs master, even in high elo the matchmaking is fked

Irelia Bot2 votes

So which deck do you wish to face? My Legal Armed Dragon deck or my illegal double chaos emperor dragon and black luster soldier envoy of the beginning Deck?

I don't even know the location of my cards anymore sadly :(

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

lol.. i don't even know those decks, i play with zombie and zombie world, i also have egyptian god deck but i don't know how to use it.

Gamod2 votes

All I care is about the gold reward every season... and In my case and my friends case. This season made the climb more frustrating than ever.... the challenge is much higher.... so high it became frustrating to play it.... if I am not able to reach gold by the end of season I may quit... like many of my friends already did.... its sad.... but yea, they really need to fix the progression levels for casual and more competitive players like you... now its a big mess.... i have many times master and diamond players wearing the skin of bronze and silvers, boosting their accounts as a "team"... its boring. I guess my only hope is to play 3vs3... but 3s3 got me bored because my team was in Gold 5....we did the qualification games... we won 3 out of 5...and we got qualified in bronze 3.... how come this ? the win ratio of the 5 matches was more than positive.... we were gold 5 before!!! and then I am placed in bronze 3?... ridiculous... matchmaking.... unfair and boring. The best part, we are in bronze and silver but matching all the time vs competitive players that are gold and plat.... this is so ironic... makes me wanna give up playing this game for good......[zombie-brand-facepalm]

ComatosePhoenix1 votes

I dont believe it. Playing since season 1 and this is the change that ruins games?

KONO RUBICK DA8 votes

Didn't you understand? playing solo is impossible... even riot said it in their video, if i can't play solo why would i play anymore? right normals, i hope that they won't be boring.

Best princess EU

abused lee and ryze in season 4.

SithesisLord13 votes

And that is relevant to the thread how, exactly?

Best princess EU2 votes

i tried to understand how can we get diamond.

KONO RUBICK DA13 votes

by playing well?

Best princess EU1 votes

and fotm champions

SithesisLord8 votes

Not really. You can play FOTM champions, but that doesn´t mean you´ll win.

Lucian is currently the ADC FOTM(Flavor of The Season, more like), but people still lose around 4 out of 10 games with him.

Aazzlano7 votes

I'm not supporting either player's point, but if you win 60% of your games you will climb extremely fast.

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