Vayne Reached the Late game

KONO RUBICK DA··138 votes·6,574 views

item 3153

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Hayaishi223 votes

Vayne won laning phase item 3144

Xonra21 votes

Vayne Reached The Late Game:

item 1055

ModAttysu The Poro8 votes

The sad thing is so many Vayne's build Statikk Shiv first and instantly get facerolled, and I'm sitting here as Sona as she keeps diving in and getting 3v1'd over and over, pinging back without her listening, like:

"Hey, that's a bad idea to go into that teamfight pings back, no one listens, no vision cause they sweeped drag and river"

quadrakill

"Report Sona gg"

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YumaS2Astral45 votes

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The sad thing is so many Vayne's build Statikk Shiv first and instantly get facerolled, and I'm sitting here as Sona as she keeps diving in and getting 3v1'd over and over, pinging back without her listening, like:

"Hey, that's a bad idea to go into that teamfight pings back, no one listens, no vision cause they sweeped drag and river"

quadrakill

"Report Sona gg"

...

I've never seen any Vayne rushing Statikk Shiv. To be honest I rarely see Vayne building Statikk Shiv to begin with, most of them build Phantom Dancer, and that's only after the Blade of the Ruined King.

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

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I've never seen any Vayne rushing Statikk Shiv. To be honest I rarely see Vayne building Statikk Shiv to begin with, most of them build Phantom Dancer, and that's only after the Blade of the Ruined King.

To be fair I'm a scrub (Bronzie,) so it could just be my ELO. I've seen it A LOT lately, either that or Vaynes who refuse to farm.

50000000000000008 votes

Wait, Vaynes don't build Statikk Shiv? I thought a lot of Vaynes would build SS over PD for the waveclear?

AtheosisX25 votes

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Wait, Vaynes don't build Statikk Shiv? I thought a lot of Vaynes would build SS over PD for the waveclear?

Whichever one they build it should never be before BotRK.

500000000000000012 votes

No argument there. Yasuo is probably the only champion who can rush a Statikk and not be punished for it.

Sinlaire3 votes

Ashe works too

KONO RUBICK DA3 votes

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Red Ryu2 votes

Varus
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48.83%

Ashe
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48.19%

Mordekaiser
2376 Games
42.76%

Draven
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50.91%

Jinx
20000 Games
49.26%

Ashe actually has a positive win rate against her, so he is right that she does well against Vayne. Outside of Morde she actually is the best AD against her just off win rate.

Stiv123429 votes

Rush it on ADC Vel'koz, then you are the ultimate vibrator god.

AutoreactiveCD412 votes

I love getting static shiv on alistar. Miltank used thunderpunch! Crit ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!!

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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No argument there. Yasuo is probably the only champion who can rush a Statikk and not be punished for it.

There is also lane Master Yi, but Yi is mostly played at jungle, where he never builds Statikk.

Gigahappytown5 votes

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There is also lane Master Yi, but Yi is mostly played at jungle, where he never builds Statikk.

you don't build statikk shit on yi EVER yi has more than enough waveclear the 100(200 if your lucky) magic damageis worthless its better to go phantom dancer phantom dancer gives more damage thats a hard fact

AbrahamBaconham2 votes

Its pretty good on Quinn too.

48983507DEL11 votes

Lightning Shen. Suck my dick.

blueberrypancake2 votes

Piglet actually rushed Shiv first once

It was a horrible idea

GV vs TL

SlaktarTasken3 votes

I have never in all the games I've played this season, witness any Vayne NOT rush Botrk, so I don't know where you are getting your stats from.

Only Play Darius2 votes

I have seen her rush IE a couple of times in LCS.

Worst part is that she still did well.

Psi211 votes

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I have seen her rush IE a couple of times in LCS.

Worst part is that she still did well.

And IE was nerfed. And she was never buffed since release. How is she suddenly being noticed in this meta... hm...

Adanim5 votes

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And IE was nerfed. And she was never buffed since release. How is she suddenly being noticed in this meta... hm...

She was actually buffed not too long ago. The AD on her ult was buffed from 30/40/50 to 25/50/75, her AS per level got increased, and there were several buffs to her core item item 3153

KONO RUBICK DA3 votes

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She was actually buffed not too long ago. The AD on her ult was buffed from 30/40/50 to 25/50/75, her AS per level got increased, and there were several buffs to her core item item 3153

and people will tell you that it was a compensation for her Q bug, i will tell them that 20 bonus AD that can crit and increase the damage of BRK/condemn is 100% better then 0.1 bonus AD on tumble

Psi211 votes

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She was actually buffed not too long ago. The AD on her ult was buffed from 30/40/50 to 25/50/75, her AS per level got increased, and there were several buffs to her core item item 3153

LOLbuff

What you call a buff was a Compensation for the nerf(s).

Riot: "WHOOPS: Fixed a bug where Tumble had an extra +0.1 attack damage ratio while Final Hour was active (now correctly matches Tumble's AD ratios)"

alfavhunter3 votes

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LOLbuff

What you call a buff was a Compensation for the nerf(s).

Riot: "WHOOPS: Fixed a bug where Tumble had an extra +0.1 attack damage ratio while Final Hour was active (now correctly matches Tumble's AD ratios)"

The compensation buff made her stronger than what the nerf took away

Yordle Xayah6 votes

Draven <-- Is 0/3/1, still 3 shots her

Draven Always3 votes

Finally someone who understands

alfavhunter8 votes

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Draven <-- Is 0/3/1, still 3 shots her

Then the vayne is bad for not condemning him out of catching his axe and cutting his damage by 30%

Tails Doll3 votes

Not to mention him probably not having any real dmg items.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Oh yeah, you can tell that to Piglet when he was trying to do anything against Sneaky.

Tails Doll1 votes

Just because it happen in with pros in one game it doesnt mean it will happen in yoloQ.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Oh but it does. Draven is strong at all stages of the game with very little items because of the Q Steroid.

Then his axes become more like asteroids. He can reach a point where he can do more damge than Lux's ultimatem with one auto attack.

I wish I was making that up.

I also ask you to think about this for a second, and let it sink. Last (and only) time Draven was changed, Runic Bulwark was still a thing, Ahri hadn't been changed into her Season IV form, and Pink wards were still invisible.

Tails Doll1 votes

I know he is AA hit's hard, but really is a matchup skill. Vayne gets a stun he dies, Vayne doesnt get's a stun she dies. Assuming same lvl and items, not to mention crits (Draven gets 2 crits with Q and Vayne is a gonner) but that's why Vayne has the advantage since Stun>displacement.

Yordle Xayah1 votes

Not really. Draven's burst will destroy Vayne before she can do any of that. 2 Draven AAs can do over 2k damage. That's more HP than practically all ADC characters in the game may have.

Tails Doll1 votes

That is if they crit and if he gets the engage on her. Again if Vayne manage to stun him/ remove his axes out of the equation she wins.

TenSlashTen5 votes

the item is broken, not vayne.

Thank riot. Making a fucking AD madreds

Tails Doll1 votes

if the item were broken then everyone and their mother would rush it.

TenSlashTen1 votes

They do. Percentage damage items that scale off AD are broken.

Tails Doll1 votes

Yes, but many people that could use it are not strong right now, and the ones that do are DEV users, so I'm not sure if it's BoTRK or Dev or both. But I certain Vayne is broken and always has been.

TenSlashTen1 votes

Vayne and kog are very strong what are you talking about>? Its hyper carry meta.

Because tank supports are allowed to exist so hyper carries are allowed to farm freely with naut or thresh peeling for them

Kog/vayne are very viable right now.

Tails Doll1 votes

Kog viable? yeah sure if make a "protect the kog comp" because otherwise jugg will steam roll him.

AmazingBeaver3 votes

basically :D

KONO RUBICK DA6 votes

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basically :D

she just got "full build"

AmazingBeaver12 votes

Power spike ... more like power tower .

For Carthage14 votes

Power Tower of Babel.

Psi213 votes

Wow something must of happened to Vayne from release date.

Why would a Tank Buster be noticed?

But I thought players said we aren't in a Tank meta or Juggernaut/Bruiser/Melee/Fighter meta or whatever they want to call it.

Maybe Vayne got buffed lets look at her past patches:

Patch 1.0.0.118b Movement speed reduced to 305 from 310 Range decreased to 550 from 555 Tumble mana cost increased to 40 from 35 Silver Bolts base damage reduced to 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 from 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70 Condemn base damage reduced to 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 from 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220

Patch 1.0.0.120 Silver-Tipped Bolts will no longer interact with spell shields Tumble bonus damage reduced to 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 /60% from 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75% Condemn damage reduced to 45 / 80 / 115 / 150 / 185 form 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 Final Hour

Movement speed bonus now triples instead of quadruples Attack damage reduced to 25 / 40 / 55 from 35 / 55 / 75

Patch 1.0.0.122 Fixed a bug where Silver Bolts would go through blind effects

Patch 1.0.0.132 Base movement speed reduced to 300 from 305 Night Hunter movement speed reduced to 30 from 40 Tumble bonus damage reduced to 30 / 35 / 40 / 45 / 50% from 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 / 60% Final Hour Tumble stealth duration reduced to 1 second from 1.5

Patch 3.10 Condemn Fixed a bug where the cast range was longer than intended (650 instead of 550) Final Hour Cooldown increased to 100/85/70 from 70 seconds

Wait here are some BUFFs if you can call them that:

Patch 4.13 General ATTACK SPEED PER LEVEL: 3.1 ⇒ 4.0

R - Final Hour WHOOPS: Fixed a bug where Tumble had an extra +0.1 attack damage ratio while Final Hour was active (now correctly matches Tumble's AD ratios) COMPENSATION FOR THE ABOVE: Final Hour grants a bonus 25/40/55 ⇒ 30/50/70 attack damage throughout its duration

Patch 5.14 Q - Tumble

COOLDOWN: Begins upon hitting a target ⇒ Begins upon launching the attack GOT THE RESET: Tumble's attack will be consumed even if the target becomes invulnerable mid-flight


Maybe itemization?

Maybe the Blade of the Ruined King?

So one item thats been in game for a while made this champ over the top.

More like the tank meta is still on and now tank (Juggernaut/Bruiser/Melee/Fighter) players are all crying because they want to be 2010 all over again where players just use absolutely no skill strategies. Go to the center and slap each other about who ever has the most Tankie DPS wins!

Rakan Garfield16 votes

The problem with Vayne isn't that she is so good at killing tanks. It's that she is currently the best ADC in the whole game. Her winrate is absurdly high for such a high pickrate.

Remlap12232 votes

Without question. A 49% winrate is so OP, and Riot should nerf her to Olaf levels because of that.

KONO RUBICK DA3 votes

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Without question. A 49% winrate is so OP, and Riot should nerf her to Olaf levels because of that.

remember lee sin nerfed at 47% win rate

Rakan Garfield8 votes

49%? Wut? Try 52%. And that's at a 38% pick rate, the highest of all ADCs.

Source: http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne

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