Vayne Reached the Late game


Vayne won laning phase 
Vayne Reached The Late Game:

The sad thing is so many Vayne's build Statikk Shiv first and instantly get facerolled, and I'm sitting here as Sona as she keeps diving in and getting 3v1'd over and over, pinging back without her listening, like:
"Hey, that's a bad idea to go into that teamfight pings back, no one listens, no vision cause they sweeped drag and river"
quadrakill
"Report Sona gg"
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The sad thing is so many Vayne's build Statikk Shiv first and instantly get facerolled, and I'm sitting here as Sona as she keeps diving in and getting 3v1'd over and over, pinging back without her listening, like:
"Hey, that's a bad idea to go into that teamfight pings back, no one listens, no vision cause they sweeped drag and river"
quadrakill
"Report Sona gg"
...
I've never seen any Vayne rushing Statikk Shiv. To be honest I rarely see Vayne building Statikk Shiv to begin with, most of them build Phantom Dancer, and that's only after the Blade of the Ruined King.
I've never seen any Vayne rushing Statikk Shiv. To be honest I rarely see Vayne building Statikk Shiv to begin with, most of them build Phantom Dancer, and that's only after the Blade of the Ruined King.
To be fair I'm a scrub (Bronzie,) so it could just be my ELO. I've seen it A LOT lately, either that or Vaynes who refuse to farm.
Wait, Vaynes don't build Statikk Shiv? I thought a lot of Vaynes would build SS over PD for the waveclear?
Wait, Vaynes don't build Statikk Shiv? I thought a lot of Vaynes would build SS over PD for the waveclear?
Whichever one they build it should never be before BotRK.
No argument there. Yasuo is probably the only champion who can rush a Statikk and not be punished for it.
works too
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Ashe actually has a positive win rate against her, so he is right that she does well against Vayne. Outside of Morde she actually is the best AD against her just off win rate.
Rush it on ADC Vel'koz, then you are the ultimate vibrator god.
I love getting static shiv on alistar. Miltank used thunderpunch! Crit ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!!
No argument there. Yasuo is probably the only champion who can rush a Statikk and not be punished for it.
There is also lane Master Yi, but Yi is mostly played at jungle, where he never builds Statikk.
There is also lane Master Yi, but Yi is mostly played at jungle, where he never builds Statikk.
you don't build statikk shit on yi EVER yi has more than enough waveclear the 100(200 if your lucky) magic damageis worthless its better to go phantom dancer phantom dancer gives more damage thats a hard fact
Its pretty good on Quinn too.
Lightning Shen. Suck my dick.
Piglet actually rushed Shiv first once
It was a horrible idea
GV vs TL
I have never in all the games I've played this season, witness any Vayne NOT rush Botrk, so I don't know where you are getting your stats from.
I have seen her rush IE a couple of times in LCS.
Worst part is that she still did well.
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I have seen her rush IE a couple of times in LCS.
Worst part is that she still did well.
And IE was nerfed. And she was never buffed since release. How is she suddenly being noticed in this meta... hm...
And IE was nerfed. And she was never buffed since release. How is she suddenly being noticed in this meta... hm...
She was actually buffed not too long ago. The AD on her ult was buffed from 30/40/50 to 25/50/75, her AS per level got increased, and there were several buffs to her core item 
She was actually buffed not too long ago. The AD on her ult was buffed from 30/40/50 to 25/50/75, her AS per level got increased, and there were several buffs to her core item
and people will tell you that it was a compensation for her Q bug, i will tell them that 20 bonus AD that can crit and increase the damage of BRK/condemn is 100% better then 0.1 bonus AD on tumble
She was actually buffed not too long ago. The AD on her ult was buffed from 30/40/50 to 25/50/75, her AS per level got increased, and there were several buffs to her core item
LOLbuff
What you call a buff was a Compensation for the nerf(s).
Riot: "WHOOPS: Fixed a bug where Tumble had an extra +0.1 attack damage ratio while Final Hour was active (now correctly matches Tumble's AD ratios)"
LOLbuff
What you call a buff was a Compensation for the nerf(s).
Riot: "WHOOPS: Fixed a bug where Tumble had an extra +0.1 attack damage ratio while Final Hour was active (now correctly matches Tumble's AD ratios)"
The compensation buff made her stronger than what the nerf took away
<-- Is 0/3/1, still 3 shots her
Finally someone who understands
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<-- Is 0/3/1, still 3 shots her
Then the vayne is bad for not condemning him out of catching his axe and cutting his damage by 30%
Not to mention him probably not having any real dmg items.
Oh yeah, you can tell that to Piglet when he was trying to do anything against Sneaky.
Just because it happen in with pros in one game it doesnt mean it will happen in yoloQ.
Oh but it does. Draven is strong at all stages of the game with very little items because of the Q Steroid.
Then his axes become more like asteroids. He can reach a point where he can do more damge than Lux's ultimatem with one auto attack.
I wish I was making that up.
I also ask you to think about this for a second, and let it sink. Last (and only) time Draven was changed, Runic Bulwark was still a thing, Ahri hadn't been changed into her Season IV form, and Pink wards were still invisible.
I know he is AA hit's hard, but really is a matchup skill. Vayne gets a stun he dies, Vayne doesnt get's a stun she dies. Assuming same lvl and items, not to mention crits (Draven gets 2 crits with Q and Vayne is a gonner) but that's why Vayne has the advantage since Stun>displacement.
Not really. Draven's burst will destroy Vayne before she can do any of that. 2 Draven AAs can do over 2k damage. That's more HP than practically all ADC characters in the game may have.
That is if they crit and if he gets the engage on her. Again if Vayne manage to stun him/ remove his axes out of the equation she wins.
the item is broken, not vayne.
Thank riot. Making a fucking AD madreds
if the item were broken then everyone and their mother would rush it.
They do. Percentage damage items that scale off AD are broken.
Yes, but many people that could use it are not strong right now, and the ones that do are DEV users, so I'm not sure if it's BoTRK or Dev or both. But I certain Vayne is broken and always has been.
Vayne and kog are very strong what are you talking about>? Its hyper carry meta.
Because tank supports are allowed to exist so hyper carries are allowed to farm freely with naut or thresh peeling for them
Kog/vayne are very viable right now.
Kog viable? yeah sure if make a "protect the kog comp" because otherwise jugg will steam roll him.
basically :D
basically :D
she just got "full build"
Power spike ... more like power tower .
Power Tower of Babel.
Wow something must of happened to Vayne from release date.
Why would a Tank Buster be noticed?
But I thought players said we aren't in a Tank meta or Juggernaut/Bruiser/Melee/Fighter meta or whatever they want to call it.
Maybe Vayne got buffed lets look at her past patches:
Patch 1.0.0.118b Movement speed reduced to 305 from 310 Range decreased to 550 from 555 Tumble mana cost increased to 40 from 35 Silver Bolts base damage reduced to 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 from 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 / 70 Condemn base damage reduced to 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 from 60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220
Patch 1.0.0.120 Silver-Tipped Bolts will no longer interact with spell shields Tumble bonus damage reduced to 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 /60% from 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 / 75% Condemn damage reduced to 45 / 80 / 115 / 150 / 185 form 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 Final Hour
Movement speed bonus now triples instead of quadruples Attack damage reduced to 25 / 40 / 55 from 35 / 55 / 75
Patch 1.0.0.122 Fixed a bug where Silver Bolts would go through blind effects
Patch 1.0.0.132 Base movement speed reduced to 300 from 305 Night Hunter movement speed reduced to 30 from 40 Tumble bonus damage reduced to 30 / 35 / 40 / 45 / 50% from 40 / 45 / 50 / 55 / 60% Final Hour Tumble stealth duration reduced to 1 second from 1.5
Patch 3.10 Condemn Fixed a bug where the cast range was longer than intended (650 instead of 550) Final Hour Cooldown increased to 100/85/70 from 70 seconds
Wait here are some BUFFs if you can call them that:
Patch 4.13 General ATTACK SPEED PER LEVEL: 3.1 ⇒ 4.0
R - Final Hour WHOOPS: Fixed a bug where Tumble had an extra +0.1 attack damage ratio while Final Hour was active (now correctly matches Tumble's AD ratios) COMPENSATION FOR THE ABOVE: Final Hour grants a bonus 25/40/55 ⇒ 30/50/70 attack damage throughout its duration
Patch 5.14 Q - Tumble
COOLDOWN: Begins upon hitting a target ⇒ Begins upon launching the attack GOT THE RESET: Tumble's attack will be consumed even if the target becomes invulnerable mid-flight
Maybe itemization?
Maybe the Blade of the Ruined King?
So one item thats been in game for a while made this champ over the top.
More like the tank meta is still on and now tank (Juggernaut/Bruiser/Melee/Fighter) players are all crying because they want to be 2010 all over again where players just use absolutely no skill strategies. Go to the center and slap each other about who ever has the most Tankie DPS wins!
The problem with Vayne isn't that she is so good at killing tanks. It's that she is currently the best ADC in the whole game. Her winrate is absurdly high for such a high pickrate.
Without question. A 49% winrate is so OP, and Riot should nerf her to Olaf levels because of that.
Without question. A 49% winrate is so OP, and Riot should nerf her to Olaf levels because of that.
remember lee sin nerfed at 47% win rate
49%? Wut? Try 52%. And that's at a 38% pick rate, the highest of all ADCs.