How does kha zix need a buff.

MunchCrunchLunch··1 votes·775 views

when he does over 2k damage in less than a second? WITH 3 ITEMS. I was yi. 2k health or so. 1900. he had. black cleaver. ravenous hydra. and lord dominks regard. I die. in under a second. how much burst is that? he still needs a buff? rengar does NOT IN HELL. have anywhere near the burst kha zix has.

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BlacksSmokeCrack4 votes

because he's probably one of the worst champions in this game, and if you think he does more damage than rengar you shouldn't be taken seriously at all. You're unranked, you have no idea how to play this game, neither does anybody in your games. You can't expect balance to be based around you and other people who are clueless. That's like making the rules of soccer around blind people with no legs.

MunchCrunchLunch2 votes

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because he's probably one of the worst champions in this game, and if you think he does more damage than rengar you shouldn't be taken seriously at all. You're unranked, you have no idea how to play this game, neither does anybody in your games. You can't expect balance to be based around you and other people who are clueless. That's like making the rules of soccer around blind people with no legs.

what? please go on the wiki and read all the info. thank you. and tell me that rengar has more burst than kha zix. because obviously you can't read. if you dont want to take me seriously than dont comment at all and dont be disrespectful. i might not know how to play the game but i can read information and numbers and understand them

BlacksSmokeCrack4 votes

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what? please go on the wiki and read all the info. thank you. and tell me that rengar has more burst than kha zix. because obviously you can't read.

Yea, you're just a moron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g04Xd1kDC3s

If you think any champ has as much burst as Rengar, it's just because you're bad.

Sona Ping1 votes

I don't agree with OP, not in the least. But posting one of those dumbass "look at my damage" youtube videos is not a valid argument, not for any champion.

You want to say something relevant? Talk numbers. Explain to him how Rengar has better damage when Kha'zix has better Bonus AD scaling and more damage amps. That is, of course, dependent on you knowing enough about the game to explain why he does, so you don't have to post kiddies' "Im so great at vidya games" replay clips.

Fowus1 votes

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Yea, you're just a moron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g04Xd1kDC3s

If you think any champ has as much burst as Rengar, it's just because you're bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_st2H2Y2Y

d4rkshock1 votes

Nope, yorick is worse.

laughup021 votes

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what? please go on the wiki and read all the info. thank you. and tell me that rengar has more burst than kha zix. because obviously you can't read. if you dont want to take me seriously than dont comment at all and dont be disrespectful. i might not know how to play the game but i can read information and numbers and understand them

Wiki and actual gameplay aren't the same things all the time.

Rengar DEFINITELY has more, and easier burst than Kha'zix. Specially after I've played both a decent amount of times lately.

Pluie Battante2 votes

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MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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Not really a buff. Tweaks to aid survival in the jungle, I'd say the same with Rengar. I mean both Rengar and Kha Zix can jungle but you gotta watch your health while you do camps early.

rengar has no way as much burst as kha zix. look at boths kits and then come and tell me rengar has the same or even close burst as kha zix.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Not only does Rengar have higher burst than Kha, it is also LESS CONDITIONAL. Rango Fett can jump into a team and get his maximum damage off, not so much for Kha, he has to find you alone. So fighting 1v1 would seem to support a split push focus, right? WRONG. Rengar is also a better split pusher.

Basically K6 is trash tier while Rengar is one of the best jungles in the game ATM.

Asayake 5150glow2 votes

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Not only does Rengar have higher burst than Kha, it is also LESS CONDITIONAL. Rango Fett can jump into a team and get his maximum damage off, not so much for Kha, he has to find you alone. So fighting 1v1 would seem to support a split push focus, right? WRONG. Rengar is also a better split pusher.

Basically K6 is trash tier while Rengar is one of the best jungles in the game ATM.

FIrst, Rengar needs either a bush, which is conditional, or he needs his ult, which takes 1 second, in order to jump on anyone. Kha has a better gap closer, lower cooldown Q, higher damage Q (if isolated, it can go up to 800 with only 3 AD items), an actual escape, slightly (I think, not sure) stronger ranged poke, even more dmg on his passive, an ult that synergizes incredibly well with the rest of his kit, giving him stick, 2 more passive procs, and let's him survive to get another 2/3 second CD Q off. His burst also isn't too terrible in teamfights, if you're far enough ahead.

On the other hand, Rengar sometimes has a massive heal, sometimes has decent burst (though it's got terrible range while Kha has a higher Q range), sometimes has a snare, has a stealth that takes longer to get into making it worse for survivability and confusion, and a infinite gap closer if he's in the jungle, as well as being manaless.

Personally, I prefer Kha with his massive E jumps (though it hurts trying to E over walls before you get lvl 11 and evolve it. Once I evolved it first, being against someone ranged with an escape).

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Somehow, talking down rengar burst pisses me off more than people who cry about him being OP.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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Somehow, talking down rengar burst pisses me off more than people who cry about him being OP.

I just have bad experiences with Rengar and look at stats to try and verify them :P Also, I've killed Rengar as Kha'Zix, which certainly helps.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

I just have bad experiences with Kha'Zix and look at the stats to try and verify them :P Also, I've killed Kha'Zix as Rengar, which certainly helps.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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I just have bad experiences with Kha'Zix and look at the stats to try and verify them :P Also, I've killed Kha'Zix as Rengar, which certainly helps.

It's just playstyle. I don't like having no gap closer unless there's a bush or I've got ult.

Melee Form2 votes

Just looking at the numbers for rengar wouldn't give you the whole picture. There have always been special combos rengar players use to get the most out of his kit. If you played against a dedicated Rengar main you'd realize how annoying the champion can be.

Nasuuna1 votes

do you not run armor runes?

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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do you not run armor runes?

yeah I had all armor runes and MR. all my runes are defensive.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Yo man i would advise trying attack speed or AD reds on yi but sticking with armor yellows and mr blues.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

if he can do that much damage with these items. that he can obviously buy even better items that have more AD. how much damage would he do with 5-6 items if he sold boots for an AD item?. 4lk damage?. lord have mercy. i mean i understand hes an assassin. but talk about not having a chance to point at him with your mouse and do something.

BlacksSmokeCrack1 votes

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if he can do that much damage with these items. that he can obviously buy even better items that have more AD. how much damage would he do with 5-6 items if he sold boots for an AD item?. 4lk damage?. lord have mercy. i mean i understand hes an assassin. but talk about not having a chance to point at him with your mouse and do something.

The fact that you think it's viable to sell boots for another ad item shows you have no idea what you're talking about. When you play ranked expect to go to low bronze, you don't know what you're doing.

Spaceman5pff1 votes

Dude, have some chill. This guy is just frustrated and trying to vent.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

I don't agree with the OP, but he doesn't need a buff.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/209645298?champion=121

Ik they're all normals, but still - Look at my KD! Even in my losses, even in my 4v5's (which I've had two of D;), it's never below 1!

Jeez, I even carried a 4v5 going mid against an EZ (I got a huge early snowball, blitz went afk at 7) http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2046809173/209645298?tab=overview

((The bottom one clearly doesn't count - look how long ago it was! I had lizard elder!))

I even went double Randuins (against Yasuo and Yi) and still got the best KD on my team. (Which isn't saying much, though).

Yeah... Kha'Zix is pretty balanced. Out of those 6 games, I won 3 and lost 3, but got a 'didn't feed' KD in all of them.

Still, Khazix >Rengar !

:D

Spaceman5pff1 votes

You mean Rengar > Khazix ! >:D

insaiyanbacca1 votes

probably because you were an isolated squishy against a likely fed kha based on your discription.

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