So...this happened

StoryDuck··3 votes·465 views

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Before I begin, I don't normally feel Riven is all that powerful. However, it was a curious game I had in that she mitigated 90,000+ damage and dealt 52,000+ damage. We tried to lock her down but when CC landed she never quite seemed to take any damage. When I normally play against a riven it involves bursting her down in short time windows before she can flash CC the team with her combo. This particular player didn't really get many chances to do that as we kept spread out but it didn't matter, she tanked almost all the damage we dealt. She wasn't fed early and didn't really snowball at first but later was killing our team 1v3 and 1v4 once. I knew she had a shield based on AD but I didn't realize it was on a 6 second CD and had 100% bonus ad scaling. I figured it would be lower or have a longer CD with her having so much damage, high mobility and two forms of AoE CC. I don't feel this gives players a window to deal with her properly. unless they are incredibly coordinated with all of their damage at the same time.

I don't have a problem with brusier builds where she gets semi-tanky and is hard to kill at the expense of damage. I don't have a problem with her combo near killing entire teams if they're foolish enough to group up for her. I don't have a problem with her mobility. I do find it troubling that she mitigated tank level damage while building full AD. She didn't even need much life steal as she just tanked it all with her shield. Is there any reason she gets such a low CD shield with scaling based on AD? A 6 second 210 + 100% bonus ad shield seems a bit much. I'm not saying she shouldn't have the shield (not even saying it shouldn't be based on AD) but shouldn't the window to play around it be a bit longer? Why doesn't it stay fixed at 10 second CD?

14 Comments

Joxcab2 votes

She's a complete glass cannon with that build. She can't dash, stun, or shield if she's CC'd. And Mercurial has a long enough cooldown to punish her easily.

The issue is Death's Dance was massively buffed for no reason, making it a problem on a lot of champions at the moment.

SALT SHAKER 281 votes

Riven is broken right now in high elo and if played well has 0 lane counters

I don't understand why Riot aren't nerfing her already, along with fiora

StoryDuck1 votes

I don't really feel she needs nerfs but rather windows where you can more easily understand "now is the time to get her". I wouldn't even mind if they up'ed the shield amount as a balance to a longer CD on it. Shielding for 500+ so frequently makes it really hard to coordinate when to deal damage to her.

SALT SHAKER 281 votes

no trust me buddy, every top lane main is aware that Riven and Fiora are the broken cancer of top lane

Joxcab2 votes

lmao no. You are so incredibly wrong it's not even funny anymore to laugh at your ignorance.

Riven is balanced perfectly fine, as is Fiora. Death's Dance buffs need to be reverted as they were unnecessary and gave many champions unneeded bonus power.

SALT SHAKER 281 votes

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Joxcab2 votes

Get an actual argument then talk.

They are/were both statistically fine either RIGHT NOW and/or prior to the Death's Dance buffs.

They both have massive counterplay and were or are just fine.

SALT SHAKER 281 votes

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Joxcab2 votes

Get an actual valid argument. So far, you haven't shown a single one.

I have hard proof. You have nothing but rank calling and insults which have nothing to do to support your flimsy stance.

Back it up or stop crying.

Eedat1 votes

Don't bother. This isnt the first account he's had banned off the boards

행운을1 votes

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Get an actual valid argument. So far, you haven't shown a single one.

I have hard proof. You have nothing but rank calling and insults which have nothing to do to support your flimsy stance.

Back it up or stop crying.

If you just explain to me how having a 39% win rate in bronze 3 has any right to talk about champion balance with somebody much much higher elo than yourself i'd like to know.

There's a reason i'm diamond and you're a laughingstock of this game.

If you played against any competent and not ape-like player such as yourself, you would come to understand that Riven and Fiora do not provide alot of counterplay for their laners. If you ask any high elo top laner who is currently the most top tier top laners right now they will have fiora and riven in the list.

Joxcab2 votes

Cute, another account.

Again, nothing but more insults and rank calling. And no actual arguments. How typically adorable of one who has nothing left to defend itself with.

It's nice of you to volunteer to make me laugh though. I needed some entertainment, had a long day.

You still don't seem to grasp the concept that being a top pick doesn't mean they're OP. A champion can be good and thus make them a top pick while not being OP.

행운을1 votes

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Cute, another account.

Again, nothing but more insults and rank calling. And no actual arguments. How typically adorable of one who has nothing left to defend itself with.

It's nice of you to volunteer to make me laugh though. I needed some entertainment, had a long day.

You still don't seem to grasp the concept that being a top pick doesn't mean they're OP. A champion can be good and thus make them a top pick while not being OP.

You still don't seem to understand you are very bad at this game, you literally have a 39% win rate in bronze 3 you should learn the game for yourself before you start telling others how to play the game

don't be mad at facts, its probably a reason u bad

Joxcab1 votes

Again, still no actual valid points to defend your complaints about Fiora/Riven. And as usual, just more insults because of said lack thereof. Try again.

Maybe you'll learn. Eventually.

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