I finally understand why Jinx was buffed now.....

LegendmakerGX·Sep 20, 2016·136 votes·6,412 views

Buff Jinx before....

Star Guardian Jinx 1820 RP....... Seems right.

92 Comments

TyroneWatermelonSep 20, 201642 votes

Posted the same theme thread,got downvoted by the braindead community.

Dr PoroSep 20, 201666 votes

It all depends on the first few votes. If you get 2 upvotes, prepare to fly into the hot section with many more upvotes to come.

If you start off with 2 down votes, get your umbrella out because it'll rain more downvotes.

The majority of the people are sheep. Not just in LoL or the boards, but in general.

LirikSep 20, 201620 votes

thanks finaly someone who understand how the boards really works

IcyPepperSep 20, 20165 votes

The majority of the people are sheep. Not just in LoL or the boards, but in general.

TyroneWatermelonSep 20, 20166 votes

You think I don't know it? I've spotted few lurkers already(these kind of morons that spend their time in the new section downvoting every single thread on existence)

JimmyyySep 20, 20162 votes

That's not what a lurker is, a lurker is somebody that reads a lot of threads and barely ever comments unless it's something they really don't disagree with or are passionate about (like me commenting on this, I usually don't comment on things.)

TyroneWatermelonSep 21, 20161 votes

You're right,I meant silent downvoter

Supreme Senpai69Sep 21, 20162 votes

They usually do that in a Vayne attempt to push their thread to the top and can't get their own upvotes, so they downvote all of the competition.

No Yellow NorcoSep 21, 20161 votes

Just wondering, how would you know who is doing it?

DeadJokrSep 20, 20168 votes

yeah and its easy to get 2 upvotes if you have a smurf account

GelmousSep 21, 20162 votes

votes are meaningless honestly

TyroneWatermelonSep 21, 20161 votes

They do mean if there is a gaint difference like 50+ upvotes,but then there are the fanboys and silent downvoters who kill good threads

DecritSep 20, 201611 votes

sigh here we go again

nerf a champion before a skin release "omg rito you stupid" buff a champion before a skin release "omg rito you greedy"

realizing that balance release and skin release happen in two different times and as such it would be a huge commitment to syncronize the release? never happens.

plus, they did not need to buff jinx to boost sales - she is basically an evergreen

CavemanteroSep 21, 20162 votes

Jinx didn't need a buff. That's the point.

Guy Fox TeemoSep 21, 20161 votes

Thats up to debate, but a different matter. She was buffed several patchs ago for a skin thats been in the works for MONTHS.

Also theres a hundreds of other factors that go into buffing a champion other then win rate, ban rate, etc. From the statistics we see she seemed okay. Riot almost certainly has other data, so whether she needed a buff or not is debatable.

( I personally don't think so )

LankPantsSep 21, 20161 votes

nerf a champion before a skin release "omg rito you stupid" buff a champion before a skin release "omg rito you greedy"

There's a thing you can do that's distinctly between these two states. In fact it's the main thing that's done with champions before a skin is released and it's absolutely shit-all.

DecritSep 21, 20162 votes

what about no?

Besides that she was buffed in 6.17 and she is getting a skin in 6.20 so she is far beyond the "buff hype" already, there are many cases ( see - riven ) that a champion got nerfed before a skin release. You just ignore that.

Guy Fox TeemoSep 20, 20169 votes

Jinx was ALREADY one of the most popular champions before the buff.

These fucking conspiracies about riot buffing champions when they get a skin is getting really stupid. You are guys are legit turning into tinfoil hat people

Attticus FinchSep 21, 20163 votes

Well, because of how strong Jinx was before the buffs, the only alternative theory that's plausible for why she was buffed is that Riot is incompetent.

So, pick your poison I guess.

VasilisGreenSep 21, 20161 votes

What do you mean by that? takes the tinfoil hat off

DynikusSep 20, 20165 votes

what makes you think it's going to be an 1820 skin?

LegendmakerGXSep 20, 201613 votes

Surrender said it will be 1820 while all the others are 1350 RP. Usually if they are shown that price at first then chances it will be that price because they never change the price once it is shown. I know I don't understand why Jinx cost so much more then the others when they all practically have the same amount of animation/ability change but I guess Jinx is more work?

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/09/the-star-guardians-upcoming-janna-jinx.html#more

DynikusSep 20, 201611 votes

Ah, didn't realize they already showed the price there, thanks. iirc, the difference between an 1350 skin and a legendary (1820) skin is that legendary skins also get new voice overs.

Considering this is the patch worlds will be played on, I don't think they'd buff her just for better skin sales.

Dr PoroSep 20, 201610 votes

They buffed her to make her appear in worlds. But in the meanwhile, she also became #1 on the ladder. They should've nerfed her in patch 6.19 or 6.20, but this is why they didn't.

######I don't mind, she's my favourite ADC

kile147Sep 20, 20168 votes

You should mind, the nerf is gonna be somewhere unrelated to the buff and will severely negatively effect your personal performance while similataneously leaving her in a fine state for everyone else. This is the law of the game.

Dr PoroSep 21, 20162 votes

Yes, i did mind the buff, but I don't mind that she's still not nerfed.

PhelasSep 22, 20161 votes

Actually, there are a few nerfs to her E on PBE right now.

VvVVvVSep 20, 20164 votes

They do that a lot with skins of the same type.

Dark Star Thresh cost more than Dark AStar Varus.

The Luch Mundo skin is almost twice as much as Gnar and Volis.

Paker Pantheon cost more than Leonas and Olafs skin for that set.

JackMcSnipeyzSep 20, 20165 votes

She's gonna get a new VO thats why.

RequiemsfireSep 21, 20161 votes

You can already guess just that Jinx will be 1820 to bring her dialogue more in line with the skin because ya know a star guardian murmuring about killing people and destroying things isn't quite consistent.

Pika FoxSep 21, 20161 votes

Who said a star guardian couldnt kill people or destroy things?

Demon King MaouSep 20, 20163 votes

I mean jinx gets this https://gyazo.com/61a2b876a73eb60dafc75d4325f7efe0.gif :x if only pantheon had a familiar ;(

RainbowIceeSep 20, 20162 votes

or a face

yay nibbersSep 20, 20163 votes

And then they nerf her the following patch, right?

NegusInParisSep 20, 20161 votes

Or they will "experiment" with small small nerfs that don't really affect Jinx,but make it seem as if they are trying to tune her power. #Conspiracy

yay nibbersSep 20, 20164 votes

Like when they nerfed her rocket attackspeed but gave her passive a massive to more than make up for it?

What I don't get is how they can let her sit at an almost 54% winrate and almost 20% playrate without nerfs but nerf anyone else in similar situations right away. Hell, she's only up there right now because some geniuses thought 52-53% winrate ~15% playrate wasn't high enough for her...

Bots Whilst HighSep 20, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ron Pitts,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yE2mlzOs,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-09-20T17:21:11.777+0000)

Like when they nerfed her rocket attackspeed but gave her passive a massive to more than make up for it?

What I don't get is how they can let her sit at an almost 54% winrate and almost 20% playrate without nerfs but nerf anyone else in similar situations right away. Hell, she's only up there right now because some geniuses thought 52-53% winrate ~15% playrate wasn't high enough for her...

She's strong right now because the outliers keeping her down (jhin and ashe) got nerfs. Hardly anything to do with the ult buff that only matters once every 70 seconds if an enemy is already close to death

yay nibbersSep 21, 20161 votes

Are you saying boosting the bonus AD scaling on her ult by 50% did nothing to her winrate? I find it hard to believe that Jhin and Ashe were the ones "keeping her down" when she still had a ~14-15% play rate. Them being nerfed might've opened Jinx up to be picked even more than she already was, but her winrate was already 52-53% as well so she was doing more than fine before while they were "keeping her down."

Regardless of any of that though, buffing a champion with a 14-15% play rate and 52-53% winrate is just ridiculous on it's own.

Bots Whilst HighSep 21, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ron Pitts,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yE2mlzOs,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-21T16:52:46.065+0000)

Are you saying boosting the bonus AD scaling on her ult by 50% did nothing to her winrate? I find it hard to believe that Jhin and Ashe were the ones "keeping her down" when she still had a ~14-15% play rate. Them being nerfed might've opened Jinx up to be picked even more than she already was, but her winrate was already 52-53% as well so she was doing more than fine before while they were "keeping her down."

Regardless of any of that though, buffing a champion with a 14-15% play rate and 52-53% winrate is just ridiculous on it's own.

I'm saying it's not worth the circle jerk, it has a long cd and tbh she needed some love after her rocket changes

yay nibbersSep 21, 20161 votes

Except she really didn't. She was (and is now even more so) far from needing any sort of buffs. Champions with such a high playrate usually don't also have winrates as high as Jinx does. By the way, 60 seconds is NOT a long cooldown for any ult, let alone a global execute. Ashe and Draven's global skillshot ults both sit at 80 seconds and most other global ults are upwards of two minutes.

And speaking as a Yasuo main, one thread is nothing when it comes to angry circle jerking.

Pika FoxSep 21, 20161 votes

Welcome to the LoL boards, where people think playrate and winrate are indisputable proof of if a champion is OP or UP.

NegusInParisSep 22, 20161 votes

gotta sell those skins man

WeatheredSep 20, 20163 votes

Well Aatrox hasn't been buffed in ages.

I'll leave it at that.

9kPluzZSep 21, 20162 votes

So people wouldn't realize how broken twitch is.

Jerry SeinfeIdSep 20, 20161 votes

this is gonna be her legendary? fuck that's disappointing. i was hoping for something cooler as her legendary. oh well, still gonna buy it.

Milodic MellodiSep 20, 20161 votes

Jinx with red hair, how's that not cool XD gonna buy it as well :3

LegendmakerGXSep 20, 20162 votes

There was a Halloween Jinx skin where her hair was red.

Milodic MellodiSep 22, 20161 votes

Oh right, Slayer Jinx or something like that. I remember now. Although it's more pink than red. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Jerry SeinfeIdSep 23, 20162 votes

slayer was pink yes. blue still looks best. if slayer had blue hair it would be perfect. This skin is nice but not cooler than base jinx. Slayer jinx is atm the only one that's on par with classic jinx imo. but then again i never used firecracker (ok skin) or mafia (garbage) even when i owned them.

Milodic MellodiSep 24, 20161 votes

I agree that Mafia is garbage. Same as most of Yi's skins, tbh.