If we send proof of some one threatening to kill you they should be permanent ban

LegendmakerGX··99 votes·7,325 views

People who wish death or even tell some one they will kill them with 100% proof with picture should be permanent ban from league without a chance to reform.

I had a game where a Ekko mid told me he would come to my house slit my throat my family and my dog all because I didn't gank since it had only been simply 4 fken minute into the game without clearing a whole side of jungle yet he ends up dieing and my mid Irelia ends up dieing and yell at me who has not even got to finish my simple first side of the jungle yet to gank off the bat when they died by getting dumped on by the enemy solo lane.

I got 4 screen shot of this guy telling me he would come to my house and slit me my family and dog throat over a shit game. Don't get me wrong I know people rage but to the point where some one tells you they will slit your throat is not even acceptable. Hey I have my breaking point too and rage but I have not once in over 5 years of league or any game have I got to the point of threatening to kill some one or wish they die of cancer over a game.

What I don't get is how I got 4 picture of proof and after game proof too since he started to type more threats because he knows the report system can't check after game chat that he isn't ban and when i mean ban I mean permanent ban. Why I said Irelia too was because he was encouraging Ekko and telling him to slit my throat for him too.

Hey verbal abuse I don't mind since people get mad and they can get chat restriction but when you tell a person they should die of cancer or their family/ they will kill you over a game then they are mentally unstable and should be ban forever not even given 1 chance to reform.

Why I made this post was because even though I submit a ticket to Riot and gave 4-5 picture this guy is still able to play the game. People might down vote this and say he deserve a chance to reform then be my guest but If only I can post the picture and show you 4 pictures of threat that filled up 2 scroll of after game chat then you will be amazed of how unstable this guy is over a game.

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PLEASE read this I was finding a old news about a guy making threat to explain to a person flaw logic of freedom of speech then realize this guy actually got arrested by making a threat....... OVER LEAGUE OF LEGEND. http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/02/tech/social-media/facebook-threat-carter/

111 Comments

tplegs070821 votes

completely agree!

if this were out of a "cpu realm" that guy would be arrested for terroristic threats... Riot should have a zero acceptance policy on in life real threats to harm or dismember someone... like come on!

Denims Wrath66612 votes

seriously? you're that hot and bothered over this? like, welcome to the internet. 99% of the death threats are shit talk, so really, even if someone did get murdered because of an "issue" in LoL, that person is held responsible, as is everyone in the community for keeping up on this. you cant just restrict everything just because you don't know how to use a mute button. grow up. yes, big scary evil nerds are being mean to you. again, welcome to the internet.

Noblewind18 votes

Can we permaban you too while we're at it?

Disgusting.

MiksaMV9 votes

For what? For being real? He is 100% right, it's just shittalk. So just mute him. It's simple and easily done; the OP would not get all angsty about some random stranger he meets over the internet. It's common sense with this media.

If this is a reason for you to call out permabans, I wonder what kind of guy you are ingame - probably behaving somewhat analogous to the OPs problem. . .

Supreme Senpai694 votes

It's not just shit talk. It's like.. advanced, super shit talk. Which is even more disgusting than shit talk. It's most definitely ban worthy and I've no doubt in my mind he will be banned. Just a matter of when. For people with no control over their anger and zero maturity such that they say something like this, there's no use giving them a chance to reform.

Giga Kahuna16 votes

calling someone a gay butt tickler is trash talk

threatening someone by saying you'll kill their entire family is terrorism

81041411DEL21 votes

Not even a valid comparison, not at all.

Giga Kahuna2 votes

why not? threats with the intent to cause harm are considered terrorism

81041411DEL21 votes

its equilvanet of saying on the internet that you will kill x african president b/c unless ur a code tier hacker it is kinda hard to figure out who player_name is and find where they live and then go actually kill them. This is proven bc 0 people have actually died from lol threats, which entails up to and including now, that all league threats are, in fact, idle.

Giga Kahuna1 votes

whether or not they're actually going to or can do whatever threat they're slinging out, it's the fact that's it's ILLEGAL to do so in the u.s / canada (these are the only two i know for sure, but i'd be surprised if no other countries outlaw it), and it's a fair assumption they live in the u.s. / canada since they're on the na server

it's completely unnecessary to make death threats in the first place

Saphixia1 votes

well there are a awful lot of terrorists at my school

TeCoolMage1 votes

Wait, does that mean you live in America?

NvestmentPlanker4 votes

I don't think I've ever called someone a "gay butt tickler" when i'm trying to trash talk. did you take that line from Taric ?

Noblewind1 votes

I'm a quiet person in game, ping, say things like "inhib then baron", "tower then b", "hold for (insert team's splitpusher here)", and mute when people are talking a lot, since you asked.

Arguing that death threats =/= death threats is ridiculous. I also don't see how muting or not muting has anything to do with the actions of the one making death threats. If I go on Facebook and harass a random woman with sexual assault posts, her blocking me has nothing to do with my own punishment should I be charged, neither should the fact that we're total strangers mean I'm immune to punishment.

TequilaZombie16 votes

Call the cops. Send them the prints. If you and the police deem it as a serious threath, Riot will probably be forced to cooperate (although I believe Riot would gladly do so) with the player's personal information.

DeathTheHorseman1 votes

You just want him to look silly over calling the cops don't cha? [slayer-jinx-wink]

TequilaZombie2 votes

Two birds with one stone man.

Astôlfo12 votes

Permanent ban is the least that should happen. Local (via IP) authorities should be notified as well.

migu3l303 votes

Oh no someone made a threat on the internet

58738074DEL18 votes

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LegendmakerGX4 votes

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Not only that, but failure to take action could lead to Riot Games being held as an accessory to the act.

I actually told Riot that I want this guy permanent ban and a follow up since he told me he knows people who can kill me and not to test him.....Riot did the usual and told me we will look into the case and if you feel your life is in danger please call the police like a robot was talking to me, I know this guy can't do shit to me but for Riot to tell me to call my police and tell them about this and waste their time I would look stupid. If something did actually happen to me then ya Riot game is a accessory.

AeroWaffle5 votes

I mean, what do you expect Riot to do?

They can't tell you that they vaporized his account for privacy reasons, and they certainly can't call the police on your behalf. They can cooperate with the police (by providing this person's personal information) should you and the police decide the issue is worth looking into. But they're a game company, not part of the legal system.

Mordecai1 votes

I dont get it, how is banning their account going to stop them from murdering you if they actually planned to do it? wouldn't getting their account banned just lead to them wanting to kill you more? Y'all perfectly capable of calling the police on your own, you don't need riot to do it for you.

Cuffed Brat8 votes

There SHOULD be a zero tolerance policy. What the hell is the purpose of having end of game report system if Riot will do NOTHING about this issue? Yes, I understand it's a game, but what people don't seem to understand is there is a real, living, breathing person on the other side of that keyboard. That person is comfortable describing to another individual how they would slaughter them...over nothing! Without being provoked. In any way. That's terrifying. People like this are completely fine with their behavior because OTHER people find it acceptable. Like Riot. Send them proof and they don't care. That just encourages the person to continue their horrible behavior. Furthermore, if it isn't allowed in real life (if you have proof of someone threatening you and your family, they'll be punished), it shouldn't be allowed in a game because, like I said, that IS a real person on the other side. On top of that, there are young children who play the game, and people with disabilities (which is why my autistic brother quit playing with me! We're states away. I haven't seen him in three years! Those autistic insults ruined the game for him, and they didn't even know he was autistic. He was just learning the game!). My husband's nine year old niece was playing League on her account that her brother set up for her, and she's pretty good for a young girl. She plays League and Skypes with my husband and her brother because they're all long distance and that's how they can "spend time together". She was having a bad game and everyone on their team (besides her two allies) and the enemy team was threatening to R//E HER!!! When my husband told them to be easy she's just a nine year old little girl. She was sobbing by the end of the game because she's not stupid...she's incredibly smart and she knew exactly what was going on. RIOT. DID. NOTHING. They happily danced around the R word and Riot didn't care. So those people and the people who threatened to kill the person who made this thread get off on violent fantasies, threaten other people with them...and never get punished. The game can be fun, yeah, and I've spent so much money on it that I'll keep playing. But holy shit. That's ridiculous. Things like this only happen maybe once every 50 games or so but damn, that's still too much because those people that I rarely see still get paired up with others after they leave my game and spread that negative energy. No. Riot. You should protect your community. You made chat restrictions and permabans for a reason right? Then why not use that authority not only on boosters, but these violent people too! And why do people get banned for calling others "n///rs".....but not for threatening to kill others, sexually assault them, or telling them they should die and the like.

TheGoomyGamer8 votes

This is STUPID How someone can get away with that I have no idea. You could probably tell the police and they'd do something before riot would. Do bear in mind that the 'you have banned a player' popup doesn't always appear, so it not being there doesn't necessarily mean they weren't banned, but if this is true (not doubting you or anything, just saying) then it is horrendous how they can say that and just walk away.

LegendmakerGX2 votes

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This is STUPID How someone can get away with that I have no idea. You could probably tell the police and they'd do something before riot would. Do bear in mind that the 'you have banned a player' popup doesn't always appear, so it not being there doesn't necessarily mean they weren't banned, but if this is true (not doubting you or anything, just saying) then it is horrendous how they can say that and just walk away.

O sorry forgot to put in the part I know he isn't banned because I check in on OP.GG and he still plays, didn't want to put that in since it would make the post longer then it has to be. That is primary the reason I made this post,It has been over 2 weeks actually and he was playing normally like nothing happened so I got mad how this guy can get away. I didn't even talk back to him other then say "Sure bud" then let him keep on talking alone with Irelia raging at me to get proof. Funny part was he was both of them had a partner dynamic duo so pretty much I was getting bitched at by a 3 man....Yippy for Dynamic duo not being toxic~.

Bronze Bonanza7 votes

Make sure your dog is trained to detect intruders and bark to alert you or disable them.

LegendmakerGX3 votes

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Make sure your dog is trained to detect intruders and bark to alert you or disable them.

It's a toy dog....My sister picked it....worst part it has no loyalty since if you want it's love you better offer him food, if the intruder offer my dog food then trust me it will consider the intruder his new owner.

bad arcade kitty5 votes

no, damn, no

they shouldn't be even temp banned

at max it deserves a chat restriction

you know, sticks and stones etc, it's just words, they shouldn't be violently punished

thinking of it, this country was proud about its freedom of speech back then, but nowadays it traded it to the idea that "the hateful speech is a crime cos it hurts my feelings". you know that soviet union had the freedom of speech too, on paper? we have it on paper nowadays as well, and not only in the usa

LegendmakerGX12 votes

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no, damn, no

they shouldn't be even temp banned

at max it deserves a chat restriction

you know, sticks and stones etc, it's just words, they shouldn't be violently punished

thinking of it, this country was proud about its freedom of speech back then, but nowadays it traded it to the idea that "the hateful speech is a crime cos it hurts my feelings". you know that soviet union had the freedom of speech too, on paper? we have it on paper nowadays as well, and not only in the usa

You are beyond dumb if you are saying "I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND SLIT YOU,YOUR FAMILY,YOUR DOG THROAT" is a fken freedom of speech. How in hells name do you think a death threat is considered a freedom of speech please learn the definition of freedom of speech before you say this?

Saying "Hey I'm not a supporter of gay or lesbian" is free speech but what if a person on lets say facebook type in

"I'll kill every lesbian/gay person I see" Tell me is that a freedom of speech or death threat?People have even got arrested for making threats like that even though they are joking which is a stupid joke.

(Please don't arrest me or report me, this was a example to explain to a person how wrong his logic of freedom of speech is).

LordBrasca5 votes

Completely agree on the permanent bann, death threats are absolutely not a joke.

On a side note wow. Just Woooooow. Just look at some of the comments. "Le lol le death threat is just a j0ke he won't do anything to you!11!!!!11!"... I didn't know that so much idiocy could even exist tbh.

Freedom of speech my a$$, try to go out and threat someone like you are doing in league and let's see what happens :^). Even if it's on the internet you can't really know if the death threat is real or not, everything is possible and as much as i know you could even be able to find out where i live and then do it for real. "Freedom" is valid as long as you don't hurt or limit the freedom of the others, which with a death threat you are clearly doing.

WolfInTheNight4 votes

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JustMonika134 votes

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Disagree with you . Permaban should be only for trollers and feeders for flamers there is MUTE button and chat restrict .

Once you made an account and are playing on said account you have agreed to abide by these Terms of Service and shall discontinue service, either of your will or by force, shall you do anything to break these terms of service AND refuse to correct the transgression you have committed.

5.1. "... The following are examples of behavior that warrant disciplinary measures ... iii. Harassing, stalking or threatening other users in the Game;"

MonkeyMadness4 votes

Guy has a point. Punishment should fit the "crime". If you abuse the chat function, you should lose the chat function. If you abuse the game as a whole, you should lose the game as a whole. That's the purpose of "justice". To ban someone for singular cases of verbal abuse is strictly punitive, and it really doesn't help the problem, as that player will just make a new account which will be completely restriction free and they will NEVER learn to stop being toxic.

Mig893 votes

This is exactly how it is though. If you have proof someone said or did this, I am pretty confident thats what the punishment will be. Riot has a zero tolerance policy for hate speech or death threats. It may not happen right away as a member has to manually look at your ticket but they will get banned.

The Nami Goddess3 votes

it's actually pretty disgusting how many people think saying these kinds of things is ok. they're probably the ones who actually say this stuff and they're scared of the consequences they should be facing. saw a zed today tell someone he hopes they get raped by a homeless person and get aids. sadly a teammate actually backed up what the zed said. pretty despicable that people like this exist. hope rito agrees

MonkeyMadness3 votes

It's not ok by any means, but this community has skin that is too thin to measure using modern technology. This is the internet. If you actually allow yourself to get offended by the childish ranting of a 12 year old keyboard warrior then you really are just as much a part of the problem. Grow up, mute and report, and move on. Besides, the real threat to this game in terms of toxicity are the in-game trolls that Riot either refuses or simply is too lazy to investigate.

The Nami Goddess3 votes

so let them get away with being a horrible person? i don't think so, that's why these people think they can do these things. crying about "thin skin" is almost as bad, just because it's the internet doesn't mean anything, we're still real people and should face real consequences. it's not about offense, it's about being a decent human being and people should be punished for being like this. it doesn't matter if you're upset about it or not, it shouldn't be allowed period and it's disgusting that people enable this kind of crap and tell people to "grow up and move on" when the people who should be growing up and moving on are the whiners who make threats and wish cancer on people for stupid bs in game. if you have to tell someone they hope they get raped or you're going to slit their throat to make yourself feel better about how shit you're doing in a game then you are the one who needs to grow up. it's not that hard for people to just stop being dicks. end of story. take note morg

MonkeyMadness3 votes

should be permanent ban from league without a chance to reform.

While I support more severe punishments for players that commit more severe offenses (as of now, it seems like regardless of severity, everyone gets the same punishment, which is just wrong) not giving a player the chance to reform should NOT EVER occur for behavioral violations. A case can be made for instabanning accounts for cheating or perhaps even trolling, but you have no way of knowing what's going on for that person at the moment. Maybe they are actually a nice person and this was a singular slip up. Maybe they were just subject to intense trolling or verbal abuse and they are just on edge. Sure, making "kys" and other death-related statements is wrong, and should result in punishment, but unless you can determine a pattern of refusing to reform, a permanent ban for verbal abuse is straight up wrong.

Also, that news article you posted, I'm going to tell you right now to stop spreading false facts to support your claims. If you actually read the article, you will note that the medium in which he posted the "threat" was not League at all. The article title is Teen in jail for months over 'sarcastic' FACEBOOK threat. This was NOT an arrest because of something that occurred on LoL, and I believe Riot policy is to not report things like this to the authorities (if you submit a support ticket regarding matters such as this, they will actually tell you to take that responsibility for yourself if you feel truly threatened). Also, this kid was IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM attempting to explain ANYTHING of/pertaining to free speech. The kid made a sarcastic comment on Facebook regarding how "messed up in the head" he was, and Facebook's anti-terrorist protocols kicked in when someone reported the comment (I imagine there was a certain amount of automation in said process). The only part of this article even mentioning freedom of speech is a mention of a petition to release him stating that anti-terrorism are impeding the freedom of speech (which is highly debatable, as freedom of speech in no way gives you the right to threaten people). Bottom line, I really don't know why you are citing this story, it really doesn't support your claim at all.

81041411DEL23 votes

Grow some balls dude it's a video game, and frankly, there is a MUTE BUTTON FOR A REASON. If u don't want to listen to it don't turn chat on. It's the same as if u don't want to listen to crqp going on in the world don't read the news. Also to my knowledges NO ONE has ever killed another dude based of lol. Period. So it stands to reason tha these threats indeed are idle.

Gusdel3 votes

Death threats over the internet are very empty. They don't know where you live. I never take them seriously.

DREADN0UGHT3 votes

its still ranked amongst the highest levels of toxicity. I mean, it tells alot about that person's character if he can just blurt out death threats in a public environment (even under anonimousity)

MagikarpIsBoss3 votes

I agree with this but there has to be a line. For example, people occasionally write "kys <3" or something purely as a joke. Things like that shouldn't be bannable. However, actually telling someone that you will come to their house and kill them should be bannable.

MiksaMV2 votes

I often say "I will wait for you with my baseball bat" and shrug it off. Back when I was a kid, CB radio was a thing and there are two things my parents told me: a) Never trust anyone b) Never give out any data.

This way you won't get in trouble. How can he get over to your house and why does he knows you got a dog? Don't feed the troll, mute him and move on. It's the internet anyways. It's a part of growing up, or do you have a secret problem of turn every little nonsense from a kid into an affair?

Typical 1st world problems from a U.S. kiddo.

Pierce The Veal2 votes

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I often say "I will wait for you with my baseball bat" and shrug it off. Back when I was a kid, CB radio was a thing and there are two things my parents told me: a) Never trust anyone b) Never give out any data.

This way you won't get in trouble. How can he get over to your house and why does he knows you got a dog? Don't feed the troll, mute him and move on. It's the internet anyways. It's a part of growing up, or do you have a secret problem of turn every little nonsense from a kid into an affair?

Typical 1st world problems from a U.S. kiddo.

In this day and age, getting your data without your consent is easy enough if you really want it. I mean, it's still tough enough to prevent most people from bothering, but a determined person can do it.

ItsOrval2 votes

You are such a pussy lmao. Grow some balls. Nobody is going to kill you over the internet. Most kids are here are in fact that, kids, or mostly just skinny albino kids who are all talk no action.

Rick Yiordan4 votes

If that's the case, why does Riot even bother with half of their report system?

If these kids scream and threaten ingame, they probably do something similar in the real world.

ItsOrval1 votes

Riot has the report system because they do not want there game to be seen as bad behavior. When people are toxic, it sets a bad rep for the game. But honestly, its a part of competition.

Rick Yiordan1 votes

But, come on. You're basicly saying that anyone who has a weaker skin then you should just put up with it instead of being helped out. Riot doesnt support toxicity because being rude is frowned upon IRL. The reason you are taught manners is because this is something that you should apply to everything that involves interaction with people.

If your logic is true, LoL should be unpopular, because there are a large amount of toxic players in this game. Fact: It isn't unpopular.

Also, can I just point out the racism in your first post? Albino people are hunted down by supersticious black market headhunters, this is very unfortunate for them. if you mean white people, this is just wrong. Not all white people are racists, and they are human, just like the rest of us. Before you bring up the 'oh you're probably white aren't you' card, I'm not.

I'll stop before I so triggered over this that I'll start ranting about things that don't make sense.

ItsOrval1 votes

If your logic is true, LoL should be unpopular, because there are a large amount of toxic players in this game. Fact: It isn't unpopular.

Its not my logic, its Riot's logic. They said it themselves, lol.

Also, can I just point out the racism in your first post? Albino people are hunted down by supersticious black market headhunters, this is very unfortunate for them. if you mean white people, this is just wrong. Not all white people are racists, and they are human, just like the rest of us. Before you bring up the 'oh you're probably white aren't you' card, I'm not.

You are really going to get offended that hard by the word 'albino', I can tell your skin is thinner than thin.

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