6.9 Zed buffs! LOL!

Don't even need to specify Veigar, / counters every AP champ, and most of them have horrendous win rates at the moment.

entire kit? lmao. a zed that isn't behind on an item. can kill an adc with QWE + the tld proc. the no QSS means that he can just initiate with his ult FOR A GUARANTEED KILL if you don't have flash

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I agree with this. it is absolutely stupid to have your entire kit countered by a item. its dumb. I say this as someone who HATES fighting Zed.

Mercurial has been OP for a long time too. And Riot has known this. But has continued to buff it to the point where people finally realise how good it is so they can finally nerf it down to being reasonable and people will continue to use it for damn once, lol.

All i have to say, is it is about time.

To say that Zed's entire kit is his death mark is absolutely stupid as well..

gets much more screwed by QSS/Scimitar that Zed.

Zed can escape back, still has low cooldowns, energy and mobility. And most probably Lifesteal.

Meanwhile Malzahar has high cooldowns, mana and no mobility. And no sustain either.

And yet the buff is for Zed.

It should be painfully obvious.

Your antiZed is Zhonya's, it needn't be said. Now in 6.9 ,the AP on ZH is decreased on Zhonya's (from 100 to 70) but still good (Zed's squishy af) and really the only thing I have issue with is the cooldown increase on ZH's active because meanwhile in Zedland, his ult at max rank is on an 80 sec CD BEFORE items (need I remind you Zed does build a little CDR). ZH is 120 sec in 6.9 (up from 90). Zed's ultimate's CD will NEED to be nerfed. I've played Zed though I'm no expert and I honestly feel little to no punishment for abusing his ult.

Anyways, ZH changes in 6.9 makes Zhonya's more a counter/utility item when you really need it (vs Zeds) while the decreased AP means it's going to be less of an impulse buy on pretty much every mage that only really wants an excuse to be invulnerable for second. -

ALSO! Zhonya's is getting cheaper in the 6.9 so your squishy champs can build it faster vs Zeds. It's still 3000g, but faster is faster. Zhonya's also gives you 10% CDR so you may have more just that little bit extra breathing room to make actual plays against a Zed.

Though I do agree how his reply seems to be centered around AD based champs. I'm guessing those are his mains, which is worrying. That or he doesn't want to be responsible for even more people going Zhonya's.

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Here's some quotes from the rioter in charge of this

"Zed's getting some nerfs in 6.8. I'm responsible for doing QSS/Mercurial iteration and follow-up, so I'll try to be good about giving updates on it and associated needed changes moving forward for the time being." There were no Zed nerfs whatsoever in 6.8, only a bug fix.

When asked how people can counter Zed now GA, BT, Sterak's, or team peel should all be somewhat effective against these. Notice how none of these are mage items and he's pretty much saying "just cc him lmao git gud nooblord"

At first I liked this change because it meant Zed could be balanced around it, but I was wrong. Riot wants Zed to be the strongest champion in the game because that's what twelve year olds spending their parent's money want.

They said they are streamlining classes, creating subgroups organized into big classes. In most games, be it RPG, MMORPG or MOBAs Assasins are the mage killers, they are designed for it. They seem to want the same thing here, which is not exactly bad - I mean, it makes sense - But Zed kit is obnoxious to play against and they should nerf the hell out of it so he can pay for all that mobility and safety. The best way we have to dislike this change is giving dear Zed a 90%+ ban rate tho

This buff isn't aimed only at Zed, either. Look at the new mage changes, how many of them are based on debuffs? Cassiopeia, Brand, Malzahar, Vel'koz have a small debuff system that empowers them, outside of CC. QSS could remove those things.

Few things were more frustrating than being a mage murdering an ADC just to have him cleanse out with QSS your ignite, debuffs and kill you with basic attacks. This change is good

Source on these quotes? Or it didn't happen.

The bug fix is a huge nerf to Zed. Losing 20 ad on using his W is a massive nerf to trades. A bit less on all ins since he tends to hold his W, but that bug fix is a massive nerf.

I agree 100% the item was too strong, granting marksmen, or even assassins he ability to remove all debuffs or cc, while giving a boatload of stats. As others said it isn't fair for zed's ult to be completely nullified against a class of champions who he is supposed to be able to assasinate, but it sort of kept him in check. We'll see I guess.

Adc already got plenty of possibilities to counter assassins. Banshees, GA, now even steraks, positioning, kiting. Problem is, the vast majority of player (bronze and silver) can't position well nor peel for their squishy carries.

remove speed buff and either nerf dmg or defense simple...

I didn't know you could cleanse a vayne and darius passive with QSS....

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I know it still removes ult still, but what about ? Being able to just go "nope" to his ult is one of the main reasons he isn't bothered with because he essentially doesn't even have an ult.

and unlike Zed, he can't just 100-0 someone with his other abilities and auto attacks.

As someone who plays Skarner very often, you don't need your ultimate to force a kill or pressure a team, you can use your ultimate even as a peeling tool against divers and assasins who are likely to not have QSS. If you manage to reach a mage or an ADC in a teamfight, chances are you're going to die soon due to going far too deep. There is more to Skarner than his ultimate, but everyone seems to have this misconception

its time

Amumu and Malz are crowd control effects....

It might be cheeper, but they're increasing the CD of the active by 30 seconds. Usually when I'm up against Zed, I can play around the active and his ult. Now I feel like it's going to be way harder.

a useless change on Zhonya, they should have just gave us the Release version of Zhonya.

100AP 50Armor 90 sec Active 3300 gold.