When/who to buy CDR boots over MR Pen on an APC?

DiveAlive··4 votes·1,097 views

Watching LCS I've seen item 3158 purchased on TwistedFate and I get that, more global pressure with Ultimate.

But why do I see it built on an all in-burst champ champ like Lissandra instead of item 3020 to make it more effective?

Honest question.

10 Comments

Xilbur3 votes

Because CDR. It is important for AP. Because they use abilities. CDR lowers abilities CD. Lower CD = more abilities used. More abilities used = more damage.

Salron2 votes

Because Lissandra isn't an "all in burst champion"

You pick her for utility and safety Unless obscenely fed, a full ability rotation cannot kill anything from full HP

DorkunedAuras1 votes

RIP DFG

CoolKnightST2 votes

That's kinda easy to explane:

  • The cdr options for mages are really lackluster add the moment (will probaly change with the mage update)
  • The reduced cooldown of summoning spells is more power than you might think.
  • They are 200 gold cheaper than item 3020

As far champion based decision goes:

  • Lissandra has a lot of cc build in her kit. Utilize this cc can be impactfull. Both her W as her R can be really gamechanging not to mention that her E is an blink than will only benefit you more.
Live2LetDie1 votes

Lux is one. Her ult can get to like 30 seconds

Miku Lv991 votes

The main thing about Liss is that's it's cc. The most important thing about her is to have that ult up as often as possible. Your team can have enough follow up to do tons of damage to whoever she ults anyways.

Also the sorcerer's shoes are more expensive. If you don't quite have enough gold to get them, it can be better to get the lucidity boots over nothing at all.

Stiv12341 votes

As a rule of thumb you could say that whenever you favor utility (esp. from ultimates) over damage, you should go for CDR. Lissys ult is probably one of the strongest CC abilities in the game, the more often you have it, the more picks you can make (not to mention the shitload of other CC her kit brings).

Moulin Rouge1 votes

I go by this rule:

Scaling CDR runes with a cdr+regen item? Mpen boots

Scaling CDR runes no CDR+regen? CDR boots

No scaling CDR or CDr+regen? Cdr boots

CDR+regen and Scaling CDR? Mpen boots

By the end of the day, I try to hit at least 20% cdr with all my mages.

Mhihnj1 votes

depends on the situation: In case of TF: lots of tankiness- Mr Pen Champs which snowball hard- CDR boots Lots of teamfights: CDR boots with distortion Early game tanks that sort of fall of late game: Mr pen. Sell them after buying void staff

Universal Boop1 votes

I personally like Cdr boots on pretty much every mage i play. i can buy pen a little easier than cdr.

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