Swains rework is awful

Sinister Anubis··5 votes·352 views

Yup i said it his passive is dumb as shit and he just sucks now. Only good thing that came out of this was his VU

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RenownedWheat424 votes

I love new Swain, personally. Likely to go back to spamming it like I was a little while back.

His passive is pretty great if used properly. E someone into your W, get two shards immediately and get a fuck ton of healing. It lets you be deceptively tanky during almost any engage so long as you know how to land your stuff.

Sinister Anubis1 votes

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I love new Swain, personally. Likely to go back to spamming it like I was a little while back.

His passive is pretty great if used properly. E someone into your W, get two shards immediately and get a fuck ton of healing. It lets you be deceptively tanky during almost any engage so long as you know how to land your stuff.

The issue is having to stack your passive to use ulti and to get full effect out of your ulti. W is really slow and everyone voids it and missle speed on e is really slow. Also the fact you need to aa the snared target makes it that much more frustrating.

SadKill1 votes

It's not hard to stack your passive by the time your ult comes up. Just by landing two full combos you get 4 stacks. His E sure is a bit slow of a missle speed but it's probably one of the best things to nab a back line carry while in a fight because of it's unique trait of grabbing from the back instead of a pull like Blitz.

W isn't as useful in a 1v1, that's obvious, big teamfights it shines brighter, it can also block off exit paths, either they walk into it and eat damage and a slow or they wait untill it goes off.

Kai Guy4 votes

I really like it, its a bit frusturating some times. Still trying to nail down the right playstyle, To many folks play him like other mages. I tend to do best with high roam and teammates who have CC, or Jungles who have Quick and strong hard CC. Mid and late game feel great but if early is a struggle its a huge pain in the ass. Had a fun style but then new ap items out and Its back to the drawing board. bleh.

Total Eclipse2 votes

if youre getting roa after 13 minutes youre doing something wrong. dont build roa that late. otherwise build it first religiously, only stopping for a null magic mantle or cloth armor or boots. abyssal mask is a great catalyst item as well if you need to bail on roa.

Other than that dude, just build roa and lyandries. if youre top then sit on a seekers armguard after, if youre mid sit on a null magic mantle. lyandries is just too good. frozen heart is really good on swain too cuz the mana turns into hp off your catalyst item, combined with Q mana refund you just cycle resources like mad mid game. if you really want to scale cuz you think u can super carry or something then go for the archangel. but defintely get to building defense immediately after. IDEALLY, into heavy AD you would go roa archangel frozen heart lyandries, into heavy ap you would go mask, banshees, lyandries, sv/adaptive helm. sv is deceptively bad, isnt needed. you increase your heal by building banshees veil as well. building tank/cdr is great on swain. also, do not hesitate to grab a randuin 4th item (FOURTH.) into a growing vayne trist or jinx. most games for mid i do dark seal and refillable pot, taking advantadge of secondary tree inspiration for the bonus potion scaling combo. I run phase rush or aery, and i more often go celerity AND magical boots. domination secodary can be decent with taste of blood, and also resolve secondary with pretty much anything especially bone plating can be good.

thoughts of a successful swain in plat 1.

Malicious Metal3 votes

I really miss the old Swain.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

even his VU they could have kept the cane...

Total Eclipse1 votes

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Yup i said it his passive is dumb as shit and he just sucks now. Only good thing that came out of this was his VU

except his passive is literally the best move in the game

TheProfezzor1 votes

I’m enjoying him as support.

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