Sylas is way to over loaded

Sinister Anubis·6/11/2019, 4:54:58 AM·67 votes·17,425 views

He has 2 dash's everything he does deals damage, he has cc in the form of a hook a stun and a slow his q has double effects he has a shield and a heal this dude can steal multiple ultis in a single team fight and screw you over. What was riot thinking like seriously!

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macspam6/11/2019, 5:11:21 AM35 votes

I dont mind his defensive capabilities, having longer more drawn out fights that last more than a single rotation is good for the game. But sylas with lich bane deathcap will basically kill you with a auto W.

RavenMagus6/11/2019, 6:36:34 AM12 votes

He's meant to be versatile so that he can use as many different ults as possible. If he had a more static kit then there would be so many more ultimates that would be wasted on him. I honestly think his versatility is fine overall.

If anything maybe cut down on the numbers a bit, or change his passive so he's not so brutally overwhelming in early laning 1v1s. But then again I feel like he's fairly weak in teamfights unless he's already far ahead.

CPU Lyrica6/11/2019, 6:13:45 AM8 votes

Sylas's main problem is that he DOESNT HAVE ITEMS. There aren't Enough AP-Bruiser items, so sylas needs to survive via burst and rediculous healing (Dianna also has a similar issue)

Cµpcakke6/11/2019, 6:57:22 PM5 votes

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He has 2 dash's everything he does deals damage, he has cc in the form of a hook a stun and a slow his q has double effects he has a shield

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ÈvilMorty6/11/2019, 7:49:09 PM5 votes

I jusr hate how you cant punish him when he fucks up because of grey hp the heals a fuck ton and 2 escapes/engages

Jamaree6/11/2019, 5:32:51 AM4 votes

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He has 2 dash's everything he does deals damage, he has cc in the form of a hook a stun and a slow his q has double effects he has a shield and a heal this dude can steal multiple ultis in a single team fight and screw you over. What was riot thinking like seriously!

Funnily enough, except for the two dashes thing, and the heal, and multiple ultimates, Nautilus also has all of this.

Edit: Also can we just stop with the listing out a champion's kit thing please, because there isn't a single champion that doesn't sound broken when you just list out therir kit.

Jaspers6/11/2019, 8:42:40 AM4 votes

He's an AP fighter right? Usually fighters build a damage item, say BC or TF, then into either a defensive damage item like Sterak's or Tiamat then pure defence, with SP, Deadman's, stuff like that. Sylas current build is pure AP. Nothing like the AD fighters that exist.

Unreal healing with AP scaling, dash shield, area of effect slow, area of effect passive autos, every ability works as an auto reset. Not only that in his ult he is given compensation in the form of an AP scaling if the ability has no AP value. He makes 200% more use of Renekton's or Trundle's ults as they have AP scalings but they don't build AP, yet he takes Caitlyn's and it adds an AP scaling to it to compensate him.

Here's what I'd do to change him plus an extra.

  1. Make him about level Q first for waveclear and poke (should be already but give it better base, less scaling).
  2. Change his heal to a % Max HP. He's a fighter right? Darius, Illaoi and Gragas healing is based on % HP, whether missing or max. This will encourage him to build HP as a fighter instead of his current AP melee mage.
  3. Reduce the ult stealing to 250% cooldown of the stolen ult. Make him about stealing ults at the right time and using them at the right time, not oneshotting an ADC with his base abilities, that's an assassin.
  4. Introduce a new AP fighter item: item 3101 + item 3067 + item 3113 + 650g = An item with 50AP, 300hp, 40% attackspeed, 5% movement, 20% CDR and Wit's end's old passive. Make it about long drawn out fights, not burst.