Nerf Ap Damage in every way and in every mode

Bultz·Feb 12, 2019·4 votes·1,337 views

Just fucking do it already.

16 Comments

SweedishGunnerFeb 12, 20197 votes

You clearly weren't around when most mages used to top off around 900-1000 AP.

AlzonFeb 12, 20193 votes

You clearly don’t play League anymore, because they very clearly do still get that much AP in any game that goes over 30 minutes... which is admittedly rare, but it does happen often enough.

boricCentaur1Feb 12, 20191 votes

Yes now they get around 800 ap with 3000hp.

PoskeFeb 14, 20191 votes

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You clearly weren't around when most mages used to top off around 900-1000 AP.

without Voidstaff sure else no

Mutli Archangel build was straight up trolling dps wise

Moody PFeb 12, 20194 votes

Yes.

SaevumFeb 12, 20192 votes

item 3916 - This item needs a review. Cause we no longer have MR per level blues.

kingDeDeDariusFeb 12, 20192 votes

Lol mages don't have too much ap. Why would someone even think that? Because of maybe a couple busted mages? Every class has at least one or two busted champs in all metas

Tahminatrix Feb 12, 20191 votes

well the magic pen does need alittle bit toning down atleast….its on boots and oblivion orb which are both cheap.....

Not to mention the fact that magic damage is not dealt by towers / neutral objectives and every champion has access to physical damage via basic attack... So when you DO build magic resist, you arnt helping against any of those damage sources...

and considering magic resist tends to be pretty low on EVERY champion....

xDogMeatxFeb 13, 20191 votes

Magic resist cheap not pen look at negaton cloak it nullifies your pen

Tahminatrix Feb 13, 20191 votes

You might need to look into what item 3135 does then.

And magic resist is more expensive than armor.

xDogMeatxFeb 13, 20191 votes

i know its more (300 or 800 Armor cost vs 450 or 720 MR cost) expensive than armor but the only problem is this why build pen if you can just skip it for item 3135 . the pen is gonna get outscaled by natural MR soon by the time its built.

Tahminatrix Feb 14, 20191 votes

Because pen will always effect your damage positively in some way..including your base damage.

item 3135 item 3020 item 3916 > item 3089 By a HUGE margin (Yes there is a bit of a gold difference around 2k but the difference / payoff you get is pretty massive compared to deathcap which is only powerful when combined with these 3 items or on a champ that does true damage.)

AsudFeb 14, 20191 votes

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You might need to look into what does then.

And magic resist is more expensive than armor.

But its also way more effective because most of the AP damage dealers dont have constant dps like most of the AD dmg dealers.

Tahminatrix Feb 14, 20191 votes

Ap damage dealers TEND to have high base damage which also benefits from item 3135

AsudFeb 14, 20191 votes

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Ap damage dealers TEND to have high base damage which also benefits from

The damage is just fine, there is just a handful of OP mages who if nerfed will close the disscussion on this topic. Heimerdinger Viktor Zyra But then again, its not only that. Basically Theres 2 ways for a mage to be OP right now.

Abuse if you can
Be Karthus Everything other than that would be pretty much irrelevant. Syndra isnt even a champion. Azir is left in dumpster. Ryze is pending a rework LOL Orianna isnt all that good. Even Ahri isn't as strong as she used to be from time to time. Nerf Liandry's, nerf Karthus jungle somehow and nerf Viktor top, and fckn Veigar and thats it mages are out of the picture let the ADCs dominate for another 10 years goddammit. XD We literally had non adc meta for the first time in 10 years. For the first time in 10 years adcs had to actually try hard to win and they all went rage mode to become the only role that matters again.