lets not forget about veigar.....

Very Hard Engage·Jan 25, 2016·3 votes·252 views

still deficient in a 1v1. still dependent on his team to place his stun without being super punished for it (whether it be other poke, cc, or just general dives) and even if he places the stun, its still mandatory for the enemy to misjudge the stun range and stun themselves.

veigar doesn't benefit from "trapping", and at this point hes only being played mid on occasion for his stun alone over other mid laners. said by multiple streamers.

veigar just isn't a healthy champion. its stun or bust. Q isn't poke. and meteor can not be landed without some form of CC applied. and R range means someone is dieing whether its him or the diver is up to eachothers build.

at least veigar could pick and kite pre 5.4, now he can only team fight.

3 Comments

Nanuk PihoqahiakJan 25, 20161 votes

His 1v1 interaction before was stunning someone and instantly deleting them. How engaging.

Very Hard EngageJan 25, 20162 votes

at least it was high risk high reward because of the shorter range and longer CD. putting his face up close and personal to initiate with it.

or ya know, my fav, he misses it anyway because it still had a .25s cast time and 50unit width anyway, and then he just dies.

i said changes, not reverts. but i guess no1 bothered to read, guess all the mobility mains just want the stun outright gone because hell, nothing should be able to lock them down.

or ya know, just buy item 3157 item 3111 item 3140

or BV/GA or any other MR item and suddenly he isn't one shotting anymore....

his current kit is trash, and he plays totally around his stun now, how engaging.

how does riot expect him to Q farm when its pushing the wave and exposing himself? and with its longer CD hes missing out on more early cs. its begging "come gank me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlJRyjZYovU

at least veigar needed his whole kit.

SirPacifistaFeb 16, 20161 votes

And now he is instantly deleted in a 1 vs 1 if the enemy knows what he hes doing.

You cant land you stun (Ever) in a 1 vs 1 with him, and if the enemy needs to get over the stun? easy summoner 4 Ekko Ezreal Fizz Kassadin Katarina MasterYi Shaco Talon Zed etc.