his ult cd is extremely low, he can wall jump every few seconds with his invulnerability, he's basically unpeelable and is worse than zed. his ult cd is extremely low so even if you outplay him he just comes back to lane and instakills you.
-His ult cd should be raised -E CD should be raised
Victorious Udyr5 votesPosted it once, posting again.
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Brujahbr2 votesthank you
FioraWillCarry3 votesJust started playing Fizz this week. I used to think he was the most broken champ ever made. Not anymore. Fizz is not even close to being broken. His damage is shit without Lichbane and if you're not used to him, you're going to be dying a lot trying to kill people. His laning is one of the most difficult I've ever played. Try csing with Fizz, I dare you not to go insane.
When I bought him, I honestly thought I was gonna steamroll my way through Bronze with him because he is so broken. Second ranked game, I go something like 3-15 or something. I played like 20 games with him and only one game I was able to carry with him. Every other game was 2-10, 1-5, 7-12 and shit like that. Fizz is not easy to play. His E has to be the way it is otherwise he would not be a good champ at all.
Oh and another thing. He has insane mana troubles all fuckin game. If anything, I'm starting to think Fizz might need a buff.
Brujahbr4 voteswell that's because you're a bad bronzie lol. fizz can cs easily because he has high base damages to outrade his lane opponent so that they back away. the whole point of buying items is to get strong, i don't see your point there. of course he's gonna get strong after buying items, but he can one shot people after buying one item and still be invulnerable which is definitely not ok .
FioraWillCarry3 voteswell that's because you're a bad bronzie lol. fizz can cs easily because he has high base damages to outrade his lane opponent so that they back away.
Most midlaners are ranged. Fizz is melee and has to auto attack to cs. His Q has a fixed range so using it to cs has the risk of shooting right into your enemy where he can take huge chunks out of your HP. His E costs way too much mana so forget about using that to cs. All he has is his auto attacks and because of that, he will get bullied out of CS by 90% of the common midlaners. Also before Sheen, his damage is very mediocre so don't expect to win trades easily.
My point is, it takes skill to play Fizz and when a Fizz dominates you its not because he is broken, its because the Fizz player knows his champ.
Brujahbr1 votesof course a fucking person has to know their champ to play them well you have no idea what you're talking about
FioraWillCarry3 votesof course a fucking person has to know their champ to play them well you have no idea what you're talking about
So basically you're complaining about playing against people who know how to play Fizz ? You prefer they match you against a noob Fizz like me ?
You high son ?
Brujahbr1 votesbronzies 2 dumb to communicate with
Fisherman Fízz1 votesThat's because you don't have experience with the champion I'm sorry, he doesn't need any buff at all. You can cs pretty easy if your lane oponent doesnt harrass you and if you can't farm just roam and get fed.
FioraWillCarry2 votes[{quoted}](name=Fisherman Fízz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xmammlNJ,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-05-08T17:12:14.773+0000)
That's because you don't have experience with the champion I'm sorry, he doesn't need any buff at all. You can cs pretty easy if your lane oponent doesnt harrass you and if you can't farm just roam and get fed.
Point is, he is not as easy as people seem to think he is.
Fisherman Fízz1 votesThat's true especially if you aren't good at csing in general
CaptainAsasin2 votesFizz needs a buff for the following reasons:
Calabok2 votesFizz needs a buff for the following reasons:
- Laning way too hard. Way to hard to kill minions. Dont tell me to use E. No one use E to kill minions in early game. It is so common to fall behind 15~25 cs when lvl 6.
- E cost mana too much. 110 then to 120? Are you kidding me?
HAHAHA good joke
Cruk2 votesHis laning phase is miserable, it's a champion with no ranged harass so he is forced to play a playstyle where he sticks to you. His kit is unique so I doubt Riot will ever make and theme-breaking changes to him. Also what that "bronzie" stated was true, he does have terrible mana costs, and unless he lands his ult on you, he cannot one shot you unless he's incredibly fed. Even if he does land it, take the correct summoner spells or play a champion that doesn't just flop over and die to him (velkoz). Plus his E has the most crazy mana cost ever, but thats the tradeoff of it being a great skill, he'll rarely use it to harass, it's always to go for a kill, because using it to wave clear really opens him up to ganks and harass. Just learn to play against him.
hOrnn1 votesno, darius Is broken, that's why I created the 3s team name January 25th 2013, and currently looking for 1 more scrub to go ranked right now on 3v3, ARE YOU DOWN? are you the type of scrub that believes champions that are melee in a ranged dominated lane are broken? welp looks like I'm ready to carry you, lets GO.
hOrnn1 votesbtw imo champion like azir and velkoz are way scarier then fizz, its just that take a lot more skill to play well.
I personally hate seeing an enemy pick azir, very few mid laners scare me but hes about the only one for ap mages.
EpicMusic1 votesStop talking
Toukaje1 votesFizz... this champ is just like camille and every full ap support champ the cancer of the rift. One shots even as ad jungle with
with his ult :^) feelsgoodman
