Can we have a SERIOUS unbiased discussion about the direction Riot is taking with the Caitlyn nerfs?

AFilthyCaitMain··5 votes·291 views

#Im a Caitlyn main so bias MAY creep into this, correct me if you find anything I did wrong please.

So Caitlyn lately has been the most hated ADC. But lets look at some facts.

I think its commonly agreed upon between everyone that the reason Caitlyn is broken is her Traps. Whether you think they do too much damage, she has too many, etc.

Now this one is at least commonly agreed upon between Caitlyn Mains: These Attack speed nerfs are useless and are just making her trashier instead of fixing the actual problem. as stated from a few people, 'But muh champion identity'.

Now lets look at, 'but muh champion identity'. Caitlyn is supposed to be mechanical and a sieger. Well we can easily nerf her while keeping her identity. Just nerf her trap damage, or like what is on the PBE, reduce the root duration early. Its not hard to keep her identity while giving proper nerfs.

What we could also do is nerf some other parts of her traps, and maybe make her q do 120% damage on trapped targets instead. (again more suggestions from Caitlyn Mains). ". If they nerfed something like trap arm time + damage but make Q do 120% damage to trapped players it would be much better and add a bit of skill + power shifting into less frustrating parts of her kit."

Overall what Riot is doing is skirting around the actual PROBLEM and nerfing parts of her that dont need nerfs, and then theyre going to nerf the actual problem, then leave her in the dumpster for awhile. This seems to be the direction this is going in right now.

Caitlyn is going to need some serious work to be in a healthy spot after the round of nerfs shes received. She needs the actual problem addressed, and also reverting some of the nerfs she shouldnt have been given.

#Tl:dr since people dont seem to understand what im saying, She needs nerfs. but the AS nerfs are just pointless and just skirting around her actual problem. She needs her traps nerfed.

14 Comments

UnboundHades3 votes

Apparently if u main a hated champ but give good ideas u get downvotes

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

Yep. Although I keep trying to get my opinion out on what Caitlyn needs but no one listens. Im literally speaking the general thoughts on Caitlyn but im still getting downvoted too lol.

Zero Drive2 votes

As an Ekko main all Caitlyn nerfs make me happy.

But as a league player these kind of nerfs concern me. The balance team often does this with popular picks, make them garbage for a year or two so they can cycle through the next champ and sell skins. I remember in season 6 everyone and their brother was playing Sivir. She became my go-to adc. She actually made me enjoy the role (normally would play lucian, more as an AD caster) and taught me the importance of positioning when you have no dash to rely on. At the start of the season I got autofilled to bot and when I went to choose sivir my team L-O-S-T it. I understand shifting power to boost champion sales/skin sales, Riot is a business first and foremost. What bothers me is that they honestly tone these champions down to the point of uselessness. Before they touch a champ they should speak with the player base, people who sink hours everyday into these champs, and get their opinion. Of course they should nerf Caitlyn without any compensating buffs otherwise people would keep playing her instead of moving to the next new OP-OP. What I want the balance team to do is nerf her in a way that she maintains her dominance as a lane bully without turning her into a late game headshotting monster who takes off 3/4's of your health because you stepped on a trap.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

Yes this my point exactly! Thank you!

Calabok1 votes

nothing you say will reverse this. Hopefully she gets MORE nerfs.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

youre missing the point of my post. She needs nerfs. but the AS nerfs are just pointless and just skirting around her actual problem.

#She needs her traps nerfed

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I agree with you, buff her as back up n hit the traps

King of TroIIs1 votes

Currently on the PBE: Yordle Snap Trap (W) trap root time lowered from 1.5 seconds at all ranks to .9/1.05/1.2/1.35/1.5 seconds.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

I mentioned this in my post

King of TroIIs1 votes

Her primary damage source outranges everyone in the game, she has an escape, a trap and built in crit. Except for late-game Trist, she's the most oppressive marksman and the nerfs are needed to bring her to a competitive, non-stomp level.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

Her primary damage source outranges everyone in the game

Which is the point of my post

Rustling Bush1 votes

i thought the most hated adc currently was Draven item 3046 item 3812 item 3072

SwiftKitten881 votes

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i thought the most hated adc currently was Draven item 3046 item 3812 item 3072

all you really have to do is put a "blank spot" for an adc and put item 3812 up and yeah you got the most toxic adc... 30% damage reduction should NOT be allowed

Rustling Bush1 votes

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all you really have to do is put a "blank spot" for an adc and put item 3812 up and yeah you got the most toxic adc... 30% damage reduction should NOT be allowed

its not 30% damage reduction its 10% for 12 seconds. and the reason why i have item 3812 their is because draven scales to well with it, his q are counted as an ability, which proc item 3812 every hit, giving him incredible sustain, as well as hitting really hard. My point is that all those items on Draven are incredibly efficient, he abuses them to well, he's the only adc right now that is consistently seeing bans.

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