"We will nerf Poppy if she sees plays"Morello 2013

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I do feel tank is a good fit for Poppy. She's a determined, honorable, warrior who wants to be right in the middle of the fight. Her signature gameplay traits are a hammer smash, charging someone into a wall and being extremely hard to kill, all of which can fit well with the tank class (think more Sion as a tank, than Braum as a tank).

Certainly, she's also got a lot of kill potential at present. Extremely hard to kill or CC, really burst champion with some mobility's not a good combo though, and it's only held in check at present since Poppy's early game is atrocious and she's kept a bit weak in general. Of the two sides of her we could focus on the tank/fighter side seems like a much better fit to me than the assassin/burst side.

Gonna be a bit of a black sheep here Meddler, but I gotta say I agree with you. I know you guys will do her right to make her a fair and balanced champion, as opposed to her current get ahead completely invalidate enemy adc/mid. Also looking forward to her visuals being updated... just keep the lolipoppy splash, plz :'(

I think tank is wrong for her. If you check out her guides on solomid or lolking, a lot of them might have options to build tank, but you'll see plenty that encourage you to go either mostly AP or mostly AD. It'd not that she can't build tank, it's just that going tank for her is kind of weak and a lot of people like her as more of a bruiser or assassin.

Her 2 most common items are . I'm sorry but I just don't see those two items as her most popular core items as being a tank. She's got a 77% winrate with IE. Yes it's rare on her, but yes it's that good on her too.

Statistically she's not played as a tank: http://www.lolking.net/champions/poppy http://champion.gg/champion/Poppy http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/items/poppy

Frankly, as someone who plays poppy from time to time, you only really build tank if your team needs a tank and you are falling behind. She's just so much more fun and better if you are building heavy offense. I really wish you all would reconsider this.

1. She's not played mainly as a tank ATM, she's a hybrid DD first.
2. She's an effective chaser/killer.
3. While she can be a linebacker in a pinch, she lacks the CC a tank needs. No one wants a CC less tank and to be honest her theme doesn't allow for much CC.
4. While her hard initiation does make her tanky, it's less about setting up the team (as a tank should) and more about 6 seconds where you are free to scatter and murder the other team. It's more akin to tryndamere's ult: press R to kill freely.
5. Her role in the game is kind of like Jax's back when he was OP or Vayne's: get to late game and then go crazy on the other team. That's not a tank's late game. She's a hypercarry/anti-carry (assassin).
6. She's more popular in the jungle and if you make her a tank, that's going to kill her. Most tanks just don't work in the jungle anymore. If you make her a dedicated tank, you are just going to hurt her in the long run.
7. She's capable of putting out a lot of damage with her Q and has an AA steroid in her W. Those two things are more in line with fighters.
8. She's a great example of a hypercarry. To be honest I can't think of many other melee hypercarries. Jax and fiora come to mind. We can't lose her as a melee hypercarry, the game needs her to stay like this.
9. She's something like eve that we can't lose from the game: a champ who is free to build as your team/game needs. She can go AD, AP, or tank. Whereas Evelynn is more subtle, Poppy's a riot. We need her as a jack of all trades that is distinct from Eve.

So I have to ask, why does riot see her as a tank (in riot's definition of a tank) when it's plainly clear that a lot of her fans don't? Should you keep those players in mind first when it comes to the rework? A lot of the popular guides that I've read have her pegged as a hypercarry (yes there are some tank guides, but ATM she's like eve in that she can build towards what her team needs).

I certainly look forward to the Poppy update.I hope it's as good as the Sion update.

I do feel tank is a good fit for Poppy. She's a determined, honorable, warrior who wants to be right in the middle of the fight.

I'm taking this out of context for a reason, mainly thematic. Doesn't this seem more than a little stereotypical to you? That honorable people are only around to wear armor like good little meatshields and not do damage? I can't help but feel like the gaming world is a little prejudiced against paladins as if they were masochistic submissives who flagellate themselves as a hobby.

I mean look at all those martial arts films. How many of them featured honorable warriors in no armor walking around, determined as you can be, getting into the middle of a fight, and kicking a lot of butt with their hands and feet?

I'm not sure if tank is the best fit. Fighter, certainly, I'd rather her be better in long engagements than her current 'burst someone during ult then GTFO' pattern and that's be better for the game, too, but I just feel a tank kit has too much disconnect with her current kit. Maybe it's just me, but 'tank' reads like 'brings a lot of CC and durability, only does enough damage to make people want to kill them' and I don't feel that Poppy should do 'enough' damage.

Wait,are we talking about Poppy being a full tank like Sion or a bruiser/fighter like Garen?

I think making her a Tank is too drastic and its 100% not what the fans want. I don't know anyone who wants to play her as a pure tank. I could understand why you guys would want to get rid of Poppy's assassin role but i still want to build damage on Poppy. She should be more of a bruiser like Jax.

It would be a shame that i could no longer build Trinity Force or Hextech on Poppy anymore. The core items every Poppy main got.