PSA to Riot: Not every champion needs the same damage levels

Bultz··2 votes·552 views

I just wanted to let RIot know that NOT EVERY class of champion needs to have broken damage levels.

For example Yasuo , my main, does a ton of damage. I won't lie late game he does massive damage. But that is his only role in the game. He is meant to kill, period. He does not turn invisible. He can not poison you. He can not fire on you from a mile away. He can not kit you into nonexistence without being fed or farming. He needs to feed and farm for late game, where he shines, because all of his power comes from items. Deny him farm and kills and he is easily dealt with.

Now let's take Brand. He doesn't need to farm too greatly to buy items to make his damage legible. His built in kit and damage levels are enough to compete without the farm. He can kill you from a great distance without needing a full build. He is safe choice and can stun you without getting close. He can very easily kill you with minimal effort. He doesn't need to leave his turret, unlike yasuo, darius, and many others, to farm since he has range. If he is behind, he can very easily come back from it. He does not need the damage levels of Yasuo. Why? Because his kit is there to make life easier for him. Yasuo is a high risk champion because he is squishy and if he goes in, it can easily kill him. Brand is a very low risk champion as he can stun you and kit you from a distance.

Let's take another example. This time let's not use a mage, but rather an adc. Jinx, since she is a crowd favorite. Jinx plays safely behind her team. Jinx has a stun. Jinx can kill you from far away. Jinx can build the speed to melt you or anyone in the game very easily. Jinx was never meant to 1v1, but because her damage levels equal Yasuo's or exceed them easily, she can 1v1 him. So what, right? Well no. Yasuo has to go in and take her abuse to kill her first. If she uses her kit right, she can stun him, Yasuo's natural weakness, and melt him. If jinx can melt a full tank, she can melt Yasuo.

Now you maybe thinking, what is your point? They do damage, so what? My point is that they have kits for a reason. Not everyone was meant to do pure damage. Straightforward champions like Yi, Darius, Yasuo, Garen, etc. are meant to have a lot of damage because their kits don't let them turn invisible. they are not technical with kits and they can't do 75% of your hp in damage with their ults like Annie can. They take time to kill you. If you can get a stun off on them, then you can out play them easily. But being able to stun them and then clear the floor with them is not right. Champions have kits to out play these straightforward fighter melee kits. They don't need the same levels of damage.

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Rock MD2 votes

Brand and Jinx don't need Yasuo tier damage?

Well look at it this way.

Against a full crit build Yasuo, Brand does not outdamage Yasuo at all unless Brand gets multiple people in his W every time. But here's the catch. Brand's skills are telegraphed, on a high CD, his only escape is a 2-spell stun, and he is infinitely squishier than Yasuo. His biggest upside is range.

Jinx does outdamage Yasuo and she doesn't need everything she has in her kit. That's not up for debate and hasn't been for months now.

What annoys me the most is how biased you are for your own main to the point of ignorance. You ignore

the mobility that neither Brand nor Jinx get. the raw damage he gets from either building crit or the tankiness and how slippery he is with IE+PD+tank items his dominance in laning phase against MANY AP mids His constant shields Or his windwall which will invalidate Brand's kit if you use it properly.

ON TOP OF INVALIDATING A CHAMPION EVEN IF YOU DON'T PLAY IT OUT RIGHT YOU STILL OUTDPS HIM AND YOU HAVE THE STONES TO BITCH ABOUT HIS STRENGTH IN COMPARISON.

Bultz1 votes

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Brand and Jinx don't need Yasuo tier damage?

Well look at it this way.

Against a full crit build Yasuo, Brand does not outdamage Yasuo at all unless Brand gets multiple people in his W every time. But here's the catch. Brand's skills are telegraphed, on a high CD, his only escape is a 2-spell stun, and he is infinitely squishier than Yasuo. His biggest upside is range.

Brand is not supposed to out damage Yasuo, but he does out damage Yasuo. I have seen enough Brand players get skill less pentas, myself included. Yasuo's tornado is telegraphed, but I still land plenty of skill shots, so can brand. As for escapes, He isn't meant to go in, in the first places. That's why he has range. As for squishier than Yasuo item 3001 item 3029 item 3151 item 3030 item 3157 beg to differ

Jinx does outdamage Yasuo and she doesn't need everything she has in her kit. That's not up for debate and hasn't been for months now.

What annoys me the most is how biased you are for your own main to the point of ignorance. You ignore

the mobility that neither Brand nor Jinx get.

neither of them have to go in to get kills so that's a mute point.

the raw damage he gets from either building crit or the tankiness and how slippery he is with IE+PD+tank items

If i can land a tornado, brand and jinx can land stuns which basically lead to Yasuo being melted one way or another, no Brand pun intended.

his dominance in laning phase against MANY AP mids

name one.

His constant shields

A shield that can be taken down by an auto attack, which range champions can easily do.

Or his windwall which will invalidate Brand's kit if you use it properly.

a one time per fight use wall. Yes it is useful, but all you have to do is not launch your every attack at it and you are golden. Hell I've played against enough yasuo's to know it is easy to bait out their walls.

ON TOP OF INVALIDATING A CHAMPION EVEN IF YOU DON'T PLAY IT OUT RIGHT YOU STILL OUTDPS HIM AND YOU HAVE THE STONES TO BITCH ABOUT HIS STRENGTH IN COMPARISON.

Ummmmmm don't tell me their damage isn't way too high when I've played against them enough to clearly see it is.

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