Knockbacks should be able to send champions through Bard's Magical Journey

warpenguin555··210 votes·12,506 views

the wombo combos and the plays could be just hilarious if this was allowed

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RiotRiotRepertoir78 votes

This sounds really cool. I'll run this by Rabid Llama and see what he thinks. There may be a really good reason it shouldn't be done, though.

Thales16 votes

I recall asking him about something like this on the PBE shortly before Bard was released, though I think it was with Magical Journey sucking in people who get Q'd to it. It certainly sounds fun, but it also sounds kinda OP. Going through a Magical Journey effectively stuns for a couple of seconds, and can deposit someone so far away that they just can't rejoin the fight. It would be cool, but as a Bard main, I'd sort of rather not have that much of my power budget eaten up by something so unreliable.

Note also that Magical Journey has really long range right now (as in, the distance from Bard to the wall where the portal appears). This might let this trick work with less risk to Bard than is necessarily desirable.

Professor Ward2 votes

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I recall asking him about something like this on the PBE shortly before Bard was released, though I think it was with Magical Journey sucking in people who get Q'd to it. It certainly sounds fun, but it also sounds kinda OP. Going through a Magical Journey effectively stuns for a couple of seconds, and can deposit someone so far away that they just can't rejoin the fight. It would be cool, but as a Bard main, I'd sort of rather not have that much of my power budget eaten up by something so unreliable.

Note also that Magical Journey has really long range right now (as in, the distance from Bard to the wall where the portal appears). This might let this trick work with less risk to Bard than is necessarily desirable.

indirect vayne buffs are awkward right now as well

James Stone1 votes

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indirect vayne buffs are awkward right now as well

Considering Riot's history with situational buffs, this might just be exactly what's needed. The straw that breaks the camel's back and leads to Vayne nerfs

xFrostKnightx1 votes

If only bard's Q can force them in, then it would help with his escapes and avoid buffing other champions.

As it is now, most Q stuns after the portal end up with him killed, bards usually use it when their low on hp running but get hunted down because a lot of portal hops are through thin walls.

LadyRenly6 votes

The fact you are inquiring is awesome. To me, the random, situational interactions is partly what makes the game awesome, little things like that. Having teammates' skills recognize and synergize with each other really makes you feel like an actual team

iainB851 votes

The concept is really cool, but it'd be ridiculously overpowered in execution. Probably not a huge threat in solo queue... but in a coordinated team, you could simply remove a person from the fight pretty easily.

ApexInTheCircle3 votes

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The concept is really cool, but it'd be ridiculously overpowered in execution. Probably not a huge threat in solo queue... but in a coordinated team, you could simply remove a person from the fight pretty easily.

Gragas JarvanIV Anivia Blitzcrank Skarner pretty much remove targets from fights easier than the wombo combo this is capable of.

I GANK LANES2 votes

the skill and coordination to do this would justify the champion placement that would ensue, just like a strong lee ult, gra, etc

doombotMECHA1 votes

ok, but think about this with poppy/bard. poppy gets instant alonetimes with whoever she nails

Devack The Holy2 votes

Wait... Jayce can already knock people through walls, forcing a burned flash to get back to the fight...

If this works, I can knock someone COMPLETELY out of the fight?!

RIOT, DO THIS! I CAN KNOCKED SATED YI/XIN SO FAR AWAY, THEY WOULDN'T BE USEFUL ANY MORE!

Silents4291 votes

If that doesn't work could you guys make it right clickable like Thresh lantern? It's really difficult getting through it some times.

Budupops3 votes

i assume spaghetti code?

kile1471 votes

I remember a post about this earlier. They considered letting Bard's Q actually push people through but they decided that a non-ultimate ability shouldn't be able to push people 2 screen lengths away. My guess is that they will say the same about knockbacks. While some knockbacks are ults, I don't think they'll let just ult knockbacks work for clarity reasons (even if it would be a massive LeeSin buff).

ModAcademy Kayn2 votes

If not the idea from the OP, what if he stuns someone to the Magical Journey and that causes them to go through?

Professor Ward1 votes

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This sounds really cool. I'll run this by Rabid Llama and see what he thinks. There may be a really good reason it shouldn't be done, though.

Magical Journey, Condemn, 2v1 seems like it could be op. Especially with a jungler waiting on the other side :D. But im not sure how easy it would be to pull off reliably. Or how happy people would be with vayne basically gaining a partner ability. Seems like cool idea though.

Tengrichan3 votes

Could you also ask him about casting Q through the tunnel?

I Main Swain3 votes

"Rabid Llama"

rioters have some of the best summoner names out there

Blueclaws1 votes

Rabid Llama that just sounds amazing lol. Is he familer with Llamas with Hats on YouTube?

PePsiLemoNN47 votes

Let Sion go through Magical Journey with his R .

Demonic Khan25 votes

It's hilarious using Sion and "Magical Journey" in the same sentence.

Voluug132 votes

Sion will send you to the magical jouney called DEATH.

warpenguin5555 votes

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Let Sion go through Magical Journey with his R .

YES

Zyorhist1 votes

this one is a yes

Lintu Puck4 votes

Pretty Pink Princess Sion! - Choo Choo! Magical Journey!

windwolf7774 votes

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Let Sion go through Magical Journey with his R .

I for one can not wait for the release of Star Guardian Sion

Crett22 votes

Vayne knocks enemy through portal Gnar knocks them into the wall LeeSin kicks them back over the wall Tristana knocks enemy back into portal Jayce knocks enemy back over wall

Ralanr14 votes

Enemy proceeds to vomit

Evewynn2 votes

6v1 op.

Crett8 votes

well maybe they're kicking bard around on his own E lol

Zyorhist2 votes

there's enough time that vayne could condem twice

BuyMeSkinsPls1 votes

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Vayne knocks enemy through portal Gnar knocks them into the wall LeeSin kicks them back over the wall Tristana knocks enemy back into portal Jayce knocks enemy back over wall

Here, have an upvote.

Jungle Lux God19 votes

Vi If you hit a wall, hit it hard. If you hit someone into the wall, hit it harder so they go through.

The Sword Saint12 votes

Or maybe if bard stuns someone into the entrance of magical journey with his q it takes them through the portal?

Crossette2 votes

YES.

MetalGearTeemu5 votes

Bard and Syndra prepare to throw a champion into the magical journey.

https://data.archive.moe/board/co/image/1416/20/1416207308098.jpg

The Loveless1 votes

Thanks for reminding me I need to install those games on my steam account. Kain was the man back in the day.

RikoZerame4 votes

Apparently, someone asked and got an answer for this one on release:

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/lA8HZgns-riot-a-question-about-interactions-between-bard-portals-knockback-and-player-terrain

Doesn't mean it couldn't change, but it looks like they made Magical Journey with the intent to exclude knockbacks.

Dengeden3 votes

Considering that you can also be knocked out of the Journey, I sense bugs of bugginess incoming.

Actually xPeke2 votes

Yes! this would add way more to Bard his E. also his Q should be able to push people through aswell xD

HN Benkku2 votes

That'd make a couple really hilarious combos possible, I'm all for it.

lolipopevelynn2 votes

would be cool as hell to see Poppy tackling someone into bards magical journey or lee sin kick someone into the hole. very cool interactions indeed.

Mimaropa1 votes

completely counters most of the wall stuns(ex: vayne and gnar) but it would be fun though for them lee sin kicks and janna ults

ViashinoWizard62 votes

You say that first part like it's a bad thing.

darkmatchwaldo11 votes

little did we realize....we had the ultimate counter the whole time Bard

MegamanEXE791 votes

Aphro always knew! #FaithAge

IcyPepper13 votes

completely counters most of the wall stuns(ex: vayne and gnar)

What if it stunned them and sent them through the portal?

Counterplay against enemy Vayne and Gnars, wombo combos with friendlies.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

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completely counters most of the wall stuns(ex: vayne and gnar) but it would be fun though for them lee sin kicks and janna ults

The only wall stuns you mean.

youngjake931 votes

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The only wall stuns you mean.

Poppy wall stuns. Alistar stuns you either way during his knock back, so he can stun you into a wall.

Lagrange252 votes

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