Why AREN'T people playing tanks?

chipndip1·Jul 22, 2017·3 votes·1,184 views

Most carries are playing lethality.

Tanks are strong against lethality.

Tanks are generally strong right now, anyway.

Like...if you AREN'T playing tanks, and it ISN'T a tank "meta"...isn't that YOUR fault?

33 Comments

Critmaster GarenJul 22, 20174 votes

tanks are strong against lethality in a vaccuum.

but lethality + % pen is strong against tanks.

chipndip1Jul 22, 20171 votes

I mean, you aren't meant to be 1v1 fighting as a tank in the mid/late game, anyway. You just need to eat up time, which lethality, even with a cleaver, can't get through in comparison to crit...unless you got a massive lead early.

RexxieeJul 22, 20171 votes

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tanks are strong against lethality in a vaccuum.

but lethality + % pen is strong against tanks.

Nobody builds like that anymore

And % pen does nothing against those 8k health tanks giving their team 1k shields.

Dasdi96Jul 22, 20172 votes

It is because most players have the "I am gonna be the carry" mentality and refuse to pick anything team oriented.

chipndip1Jul 22, 20171 votes

Exactly

Big LincolnJul 22, 20171 votes

but jungle tanks are carrying games right now

AhristocatsJul 22, 20172 votes

it's a tank meta IN THE JUNGLE

it's not a tank meta anywhere in the map except maybe sup sion malphite poppy and other tanks in the toplane are garbage af toplane is dominated by jayce right now

chipndip1Jul 22, 20171 votes

Ban Jayce and pick your tank?

I mean, Cho is strong, Mao is strong, Zac is strong, Sej is strong. Sure, not EVERY SINGLE TANK is strong, but we have a few strong tanks. It's not like you CAN'T play tanks. Besides, you guys don't want Poppy or Malphite strong, anyway. I especially don't want Malphite strong, to be fair and honest. Galio was strong, and he's still good in pro play, but he's weaker in solo queue after people wanted him nerfed.

We can't complain about tanks being weak while whining about tanks that aren't weak at the same time. Main point I'm making here is that tanks aren't horribly weak. Just the tanks people don't like are.

AhristocatsJul 22, 20172 votes

cho is decent top, completly broken in the jungle

every single pick you listed are strong in the jungle, mao is being nerfed in the jungle because of cinderhulk buff cinderhulk itself is going to be nerfed

toplaners tanks are very bad atm, and i said jayce domiantes top, but if you ban him you get other shit like gnar, or jax/jarvan, abusing triforce+titanic

chipndip1Jul 22, 20171 votes

The only tanks that are bad atm are the ones that got nerfed because people complained about them.

When people DON'T start a circle jerk, they're pretty strong.

Also, Gnar is a tank (vanguard) whenever he transforms.

Despite all that, you're right in saying that top lane tanks aren't amazing picks in most cases...but that's once again our fault, is it not?

Dani El PezgloboJul 22, 20171 votes

what he means , is that tanks cant deal with bully lanes, thats why they arent playable on lane

chipndip1Jul 22, 20172 votes

We HAD tanks that could. We cried for nerfs on each one.

KaRniVooL13Jul 22, 20171 votes

so true

Alex h8721Jul 22, 20171 votes

Im just happy that tanky melee supports are viable again and its not just ranged support dominance right now.

EndlessSorcererJul 22, 20173 votes

Agreed. Top-lane tanks just can't handle lane-bullies or splitpushers; they are bullied early only to be out-scaled and it forces them away from teamfights to try and stall the duelist.

KaRniVooL13Jul 22, 20171 votes

jayce has losing win rates in top lane vs Chogath Maokai Sion JarvanIV Yorick Gragas Malphite

ill agree that jayce due to once again buffs to lethality makes him strong as fuk in top lane... but he has losing win rates vs those champs

http://current.lolalytics.com/champion/Jayce/Top/

AhristocatsJul 22, 20171 votes

jarvan isn't a tank

and i'm talking about LCS and LCK, we're balancing around pro currently

KaRniVooL13Jul 22, 20171 votes

yea well i dont think ill be matched vs a LCS top laner in my games

sooo

chipndip1Jul 22, 20171 votes

If that's the case, what about Shen? He's always relevant.

AhristocatsJul 22, 20171 votes

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?season=S7&tournament=ALL&patch=7.14

http://www.gamesoflegends.com/champion/picksandbans.php?season=S7&tournament=ALL&patch=7.13

yeah he's fine, i think the only tank that is fine

and galio is picked mid btw, just so you know

chipndip1Jul 22, 20171 votes

Poppy's on LCS literally right now, against Maoki.

Grags is also still around, too.

I honestly think tanks are generally alright, my man. =/

OurLestradeJul 22, 20171 votes

I'm always playing tanks because I enjoy having CC.

ZT XperimentorJul 22, 20171 votes

They can't snowball as fast in general, so bully style champions run them over and pin them down.

Big LincolnJul 22, 20171 votes

i play sejuani so I can do well and then rally for severe nerfs out of spite

does that count

BLACK REALM GODJul 22, 20171 votes

i've been trying to find a tank that i like, but the closest thing to that got changed over to a marksman/fighter hybrid a while ago. so i'm still searching. shen doesnt play like a tank as well as he plays as an assassin and people play teemo or something similar to make you absolutely worthless since 99.9% of shen's damage comes from his basic attacks.

Darkdemon653Jul 22, 20171 votes

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Tanks are generally strong right now, anyway.

I've got some bad news for you.

GigglesOJul 22, 20171 votes

That is the thing that always gets me about the complain about not being able to instakill tanks. "Tanks are strong and ruining games" Well then why isn't everyone playing them?

Evil YasuoJul 23, 20171 votes

Leona sup, zac jungle, malphite top. I run into this team literally every other match.

Xion The XIVJul 23, 20171 votes

That is the problem. Jayce just destroys tanks and if you ban Jayce, congrats Fiora now kills you, get rid of Fiora, Now you have Gnar you will never move again. Easier and better to pick a Tank JG then it is a Tank top. Not many champions that can shatter a JG Tank early on, but the ones that do can be easily banned.

chipndip1Jul 23, 20171 votes

The real issue is that the tanks we had that were strong laners got nerfed out of being strong laners because the community, us, whined for it. Now the community, us, are saying tanks can't lane against lane bullies.

Xion The XIVJul 24, 20171 votes

I can see why we would kinda complain. You ever have those 40-50 minute game and for someone reason someone on your team has the Bronze mentality to go place a ward in their JG when all are missing? Games where one person decides to do something stupid looses you the game. I hate short games, but I hate 60+ minute games where someone does something stupid to cost you the game.

chipndip1Jul 24, 20171 votes

So the solution is constantly whine about the state of tanks ALL THE TIME?

Xion The XIVJul 24, 20171 votes

But then you have to think about it. Not going to use their official names just Tanks/ADC/Assassin/AP. How many % do you think play each of these divisions? I would say tank is about 5%/ADC 60%/Assassin 10% / and AP 25%. I am including Supports into Tank/AP since that is basically what they all are considered. When the Vast Majority bitch and complain about the Minority most companies would be forced to listen to the Majority instead of the Minority. Even if you change these numbers around Tanks will always be the Minority unless you place Support into their own category and we have already seen Riot Gut Support items constantly.