I'm not an Ahri main but when I'm put in my secondary role (Mid) I usually like to pick Ahri. But this season she just feels really weird... It's like she doesn't do enough damage yet she's still pretty safe. Honestly I'd rather have the speed boost taken off Q for more damage and have W actually go after champions over minions. Not saying she needs buffed but it would be nice if instead of being so safe she could do more damage.
OnanThaMan4 votesIt's damage creep, you can't kite if you die from 1-2 auto attacks from the adc who's been pumped full of heals and shields. Her niche has suffered from damage creep pretty badly.
Frea2 votesLmao, this triggers me a lot too. Ahri as a midlaner should be able to oneshot the AD, maybe with some more spells in between if they have been pumped with shields. Fun part is that Ahri's full combo doesn't even put the AD at 50% hp late game. Lul i just think they ruined Ahri when they added the damn q MS.
Sorin Alucard2 votesbeen playing a lot of her lately, I'd say the same. Its like if you dont straight up snowball you're aight
Kaìju2 votesBeen hearing tha e same thing. I played her ADC today since I played her AP mid not too long ago and felt like I did the same amount if damage. Not a lot, but enough to be useful, but not really "Oh god" levels of killing people.
Frea1 votesFun part is that Ahri's w with only Muramana does more damage than a full AP build. I would say ADC Ahri is damn good right now.
Kaìju1 votesYeah I actually did that. I didn't do a lot until late game when I could obliterate people since I had 100% crit and Manamune. The only reason I didn't go in was the 15/3 Katarina who nuked me.
wildfox992 votesFun part is that Ahri's w with only Muramana does more damage than a full AP build. I would say ADC Ahri is damn good right now.
here the exact damage
with muramana
131 + 127 + 124 + base damage = 224 (base damage) + 382 = 606 damage
with an AP build
700 AP W -> 224 + 48% AP = 560 damage
682 AP -> 551 damage
600 AP -> 512 damage
500 AP -> 480 damage
400 AP -> 416 damage . . . 200 AP -> 320 damage
so muramana W in mid game deals almost twice damage as AP W :/
Frea2 votesIt just triggers me how one damn AD item increases Foxfire's damage more than a full AP build. I wouldn't want Ahri to get buffs either, since its the meta that's hitting her, but i would'nt mind a q MS removal and buffing her W.
ƒrostγ2 votesLissandra is in a far worse state atm. I hope the changes to the ap items will help her ( and other burst mages ).
Jeanne fan club1 votesLissandra is in a far worse state atm. I hope the changes to the ap items will help her ( and other burst mages ).
Yeah I agree 100% that she is in a worse state, but I don't think that she should be made a burst mage, I think there are enough of those. IMO her kit should be focused more around the cc aspect. More powerful slows and stuncs etc. because there really isn't a mage that has a cc archetype as the basis of their kit other than maybe morgana.
Frea1 votesRiot Rickless said he mentioned Ahri and Syndra to the balance team, but that they would not recieve any changes after the bruiser rune and AP item changes are live. Also many people agree that Ahri is ''very mobile'' and that they should nerf her mobility for more AP dmg or AP ratio's. Though i think her mobility is mediocre compared to a champion like Katarina/Akali/Diana (remember Ahri has regular dashes compared to these 3 i mentioned), i agree that they should remove her q movement speed to give her more damage.
wildfox991 votesHonestly I'd rather have the speed boost taken off Q for more damage
that's basically what every ahri main is asking since S5
well,i see they reverted rengar,there is still some hope i guess...
Frozen Diva1 votes
are all in a weird spot IMO
Jeanne fan club1 votesI always max E second because the W isn't a good ability.
I spent almost 70% of lane match ups receiving lanes because these guys
can all tower dive you and kill you through your charm assuming it actually works when you use it (like 10% of my charms have no actual effect other than damage on the enemy champion when hit).
Don't rely on your W for anything other than the lich bane proc if you build it.
your whole combo will always have less dps than any other midlaners full combo unless you build lich bane.
The only way I have been able to make her work this season is by taking Dark harvest and building lich bane as a second item. By midgame you get a really nice 600 damage auto attack every time you get a dark harvest auto attack during a fight, which is really nice considering that she doesn't have as much dps in fights as other midlaners do if you build a standard mage build.
Honestly W should just be a different ability altogether. Maybe something that works better with charm? I mean W almost never hits all 3 things on someone you charm anyway. Maybe some kind of enhanced auto attack so that she has some sort of inherent synergy with an AP item. IDK, I've played her since 2014 and I still really don't like her W.
Mandalorian 1171 votesI thought of that. She’s still fun, but she doesn’t feel so much like a mage assassin hybrid anymore. Just seems like a mage with 3 flashes. I don’t feel like I do enough damage to take to many risks, just poke them until they die. Mid game gets fun, but I still feel like she’s lacking damage. Kinda makes me sad since she’s my favorite kid laner, but she isn’t doing enough to keep up. Maybe I’m just bad though.
