Has anyone thought of buying Lich Bane?

genya03·7/28/2016, 8:14:21 PM·29 votes·5,874 views

item 3100 I don't see many people building this item anymore. I don't see it being a bad item for any type of games for mages. I only seen it built (sometimes) on Kassadin Fizz Ekko Ezreal Orianna. I think if Riot were to revert back item 3057 to AP again, it would a great item again. But that's my opinion on item 3100.

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Maximum Morde7/28/2016, 8:19:07 PM25 votes

Lichbane Veigar DELETES towers.

Druce7/28/2016, 8:25:38 PM21 votes

Lich Bane is pretty good on people who have AA's in their kits like Diana Ekko Fizz Kassadin Viktor . Just because it isn't built on everyone like deathcap doesn't mean its a bad item. Just like Essence reaver, just because it isnt built on Jhin and Lucian anymore doesn't mean its bad, its just more fit for other champs like Sivir

runedara7/29/2016, 2:43:56 AM15 votes

Must buy vs a Karthus.

Stereo Dreamer7/29/2016, 12:40:38 AM9 votes

You forgot TwistedFate Sona Evelynn Diana Nidalee Akali Kayle Teemo in addition to ones you listed.

The item is fine and it's usage on the champs that build it make it abusable already when you build the full Lich Bane, not to mention how well it scales. There's no point to giving these (rather wide for a niche) champions even more early game power with the components and how much it greatly helps the champions who deal that kind of extra free scaling damage.

We should really be talking more about Nashors Tooth item 3115 tbh

Vistha Kai7/28/2016, 8:29:28 PM4 votes

Lunar Goddess Diana with item 3001's aura along with an active item 3100 and http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/thumb/0/04/Pale_Cascade.png/38px-Pale_Cascade.png.

Bitch, heard you like pink.

jmp2317/28/2016, 8:16:19 PM3 votes

I personally love lich bane on ap melee champs, or tf, victor and things like that

Jesus is Savior7/28/2016, 11:33:35 PM3 votes

Some mages have a hard time auto-attacking. As an example, let's go with Ryze.

When I played him for the first time, I had a hard enough time actually casting all my skills because he has 3 offensive skills on a super low cooldown. If I threw in an AA I would literally be delaying skill damage because there was no window where everything was on cd.

On someone like Evelynn Fizz Akali Ekko however, one of 2 things happens:

  1. One of your skills automatically proc's on-hit effects.

  2. (Akali) Part of your burst is already factored into your autoattacks (her mark) so you HAVE to find time to throw in an AA to do your damage.

Seenan7/28/2016, 9:50:19 PM2 votes

Rather not see more TF players.

Cubíx7/28/2016, 8:27:31 PM2 votes

I really enjoy the item on champs like Ekko, but the item reaches out to such a niche champion pool, AP champs with auto attack abilities. Like Ekkos phase-dive or fizz's urchin strike benefit heavily from Lich bane, compared to champs like Syndra or Anivia who have no need to auto attack during their combos.

Pauguster7/28/2016, 8:24:22 PM2 votes

Good first item on TwistedFate. Just generally good on champions with low-cooldown burst, especially if on-hit or autoattacking is involved.

1000angrybees7/29/2016, 3:23:04 AM2 votes

Lich bane is my favorite item. It feels pretty versatile, considering it gives mana, cdr, ap, and movement speed. Its great for Mages who have the opportunity to weave AA's between spells (Ahri is actually a really good example, she can proc it about 3 times if you do her combo right) or champs that rely on AA's like Ori, Lux, and Sona.

Vallalan7/28/2016, 11:12:51 PM2 votes

Lich Bane is fine, it's just low ap and it depends on a champions play pattern. with its cost, its not efficient to buy it if you aren't going to weave in an auto in a combo. so ekko does this automatically. fizz does, kassadin already does. Twisted Fate as well.

but lets say on a champ like Lux. why don't you build it on her? in theory it would be perfect for her? but then you realize later in the game you never want to be in auto attack range on a champ like Lux ever so the item is wasted most of the time.

That said, it has the unique niche of helping ap champs push down towers a bit faster. that is probably its best use in champs who are not going to utilize it so much in team fights. if you are somehow managing to split push as a champ who wouldn't usually build lich bane, then building it might not be a bad idea. I once built Lich Bane on morgana simply because the enemy team was not addressing me as I split push and I was able to take towers noticeably faster because of it.

ldsjm47/29/2016, 12:02:46 AM2 votes

Haven't seen anyone mention Sona yet (granted I might just be blind),

I usually build this almost every time I play her (I build almost full ap support), it works so well with her powercord and is so much fun to use that it's hard for me not to. Granted, that might just be me and it could be terrible on her, but I think it works for me.

XIII Vanitas7/29/2016, 7:33:13 PM1 votes

All viable Lich Bane users Diana Ekko Ezreal Fizz Gragas Kassadin Nidalee Lux Shaco Sona TwistedFate Viktor

SociopathFriend7/29/2016, 4:23:48 AM1 votes

I built it on Lux all the time- I called it Battle Lux. Build would be something like this (Haven't got to play in a while so probably needs changes): item 3165 or item 3174 or maybe item 3027 item 3020 or item 3158 item 3100 (Unless I need a more defensive item- in which case swap this with the next step) item 3157 or item 3001 item 3135 (Unless they aren't building a lot of MR- in which case swap this with the next step) Situational items: item 3089 item 3285 item 3116 item 3041 item 3140 item 3102 Stomping hard meant Rabbadon or Ludens Needing more health meant Rylai Playing safe and getting a lot of assists (but little money) meant Mejai And some bombshell mage getting fed meant QSS or Banshee

ROA is a maybe in case I need mana but the enemy mid isn't AP and they don't have someone who heals a lot for Morell. CDR is nice on Lux- but not crucial.

Crucial in this idea is that you need to be in AA distance so you can throw on that extra damage- so you need to be durable enough to survive a few hits. Every Illumination proc you get does damage- abuse it- BE THE BATTLE MAGE.

DarkSunSovereign7/29/2016, 8:46:51 AM1 votes

I think the main reason people don't get it is because it forces you to be in short range to auto attack the enemy, so you wouldn't get it on, like Syndra. If the passive activated on ability cast, like Luden's, everyone would buy it.

GigaPube7/29/2016, 1:15:24 AM1 votes

i imagine no pros want to take the risk of trying to fit in autos for their trading when most azirs/leblancs/cassiopeias will end up doing more consistent or just higher burst damage than a +50%AP bonus only to your autos. i guess at the highest level of play lich bane is like the most..."well-rounded/suitable for the largest....amount of possible optimal build paths...." niche item...?