And there are currently 5 top threads up about how he needs wind wall and his shield nerfed and such
This level of hate is irrational and hilarious.
Maybe let these (well deserved) nerfs play out for like 48h before proposing to literally gut him?
Akali is SO HOT87 votesYasuo is invincible while windwall is out and when he throws it out you are forced to use all of your projectile abilities and aim them right at it. Don't forget it has a 0 second cooldown and instakills everyone on the enemy team.
ChaosThief6 votesCan't tell if sarcasm or serious. Assuming sarcasm.
sir d wreck18 votesI think even if the comment had /s at the end of that it would have been overkill. :P
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Yasuo is invincible while windwall is out and when he throws it out you are forced to use all of your projectile abilities and aim them right at it. Don't forget it has a 0 second cooldown and instakills everyone on the enemy team.
Yasuo is invincible while windwall is out" tell that to vi, Darius,aure,trundle -0 second cd -instakills everyone on the team I am forced to ask are you bronze?
AhmCha17 votesThe joke <----
Your head<----
takeZOOOOOO2 votesDidn't seem like a joke lmao after all can't take it as a joke with the amount of people that hate yasuo on boards l0l
Wimbledofy3 votesIt's pretty obvious it's a joke. Did you not see the part where he said it instakills the enemy team? Reading comprehension really helps, there's no possible way that could have been serious.
takeZOOOOOO3 votesIt's boards man It's hard to not take them seriously :/
HateDaddy13 votesGood jobs son, your first catch!
Enloct43 votesYeah. But I saw someone play him today. Which means he wasn't nerfed hard enough.
Bisaknosp4 votesxDDD
Spaceman5pff14 votesyuck fasuo
LankPants28 votesAs it turns out people dislike champions who have been cancers upon the game for years. Why does this surprise you?
Bladerunner77773 votesExplain to me how Udyr/Kayle/Shyvana/Xin Zhao/Warwick aren't cancer
Zenthon Prime2 votesUdyr, when strong, is cancer. Not many people will deny this one.
WW, Kayle and Xin are too simplistic to actually pose an issue. Sure, they're easy to play and do well, but they have about zero outplay potential and have very obvious play patterns.
Shyv is the most easily kitable champion in League of Legends aside from Mordekaiser. If she's getting anywhere near you without her ultimate you're doing it wrong.
Bladerunner77773 votesWhen any of these champions are strong, they are "cancer". That's why these champions always hover between absolute trash and borderline busted (depending on the meta).
That's bad for the game, or "cancerous" as a lot of people like to say.
Straley24 votesI dunno still pretty unfair that if one pixel of Nami's ult touches windwall her entire ult gets eliminated.
Imperial Japan4 votesTbh I believe abilities like nami's Ult should be able to have a special interaction with Yasuo's w but riot would just make spaghetti coding so I'd say it's better right now than it would be coding nami's Ult as each pixel being a different entity
GULAG 4 U22 votesI agree. The boards are upvoting unjustified and stupid hate threads.
umbraˉ19 votesThe anti-Yasuo circle jerk just simply cannot be stopped.
Hibeki16 votesThe problem is they touched literally nothing that was the fundamental problem with his toxic kit (besides the bug)
Spammable AOE crit hits with a knockup, infinite dashes, and windwall on top of a free shield and no mana will never be balanced. It will either be underwhelming or broken as hell, and they are doing nothing to address that.
ChaosThief18 votesOh for crying out loud... Really?
Spammable AOE crit hits: E>Q, which requires a minion and a fixed distance to do both constantly. He puts himself in CC for it as well.
Infinite dashes? So I assume that menas you have infinite minions; otherwise it's 10 seconds scaling down to 6 before he can re-dash the same target.
Wind wall is designed for him to be allowed to build full damage while being melee; imagine running in just to instantly have a thresh hook thrown at your face, then dying and your team calling you a feeder.
And that "free shield" has an incredibly long time to charge, with far, far less power than a character who can manually create shields, as well as a low duration.
If you would really, really like to, I could help you learn how to play against him; it's really not that hard once you get the hang of it.
Hibeki26 votesOh for crying out loud... Really?
Spammable AOE crit hits: E>Q, which requires a minion and a fixed distance to do both constantly. He puts himself in CC for it as well.
Infinite dashes? So I assume that menas you have infinite minions; otherwise it's 10 seconds scaling down to 6 before he can re-dash the same target.
Wind wall is designed for him to be allowed to build full damage while being melee; imagine running in just to instantly have a thresh hook thrown at your face, then dying and your team calling you a feeder.
And that "free shield" has an incredibly long time to charge, with far, far less power than a character who can manually create shields, as well as a low duration.
If you would really, really like to, I could help you learn how to play against him; it's really not that hard once you get the hang of it.
Q is AOE without the circle.
Yes, infinite. People act like having minions around is such a hard thing, they spawn often, and they don't die all the time. It's normal to have 7 or 8 minions in lane, and one champion. Thats a pretty large area of on demand dashes, and minions spawn pretty fucking quickly too.
Yes, he can be melee with it, but that doesn't mean that placing a windwall completely fucking ignores half a team for a duration. Giving it a durability of soaked projectiles or making it not effect ults or projectiles of a certain calibur. You can't deny the fact that this fucking thing can block MULTIPLE ULTS and put people out of a fight indefinitely. That's the definition of toxic.
There is so much shit shoved onto his kit that they dont even put on the tooltip, there is no reason for him to have any of it. Did you know last breath will put you out of tower range if it can? did you know that each rank in his ult extends the range of his auto attacks after he uses it? There is no reason for any of this to be here, but it is, and it adds to the toxicity.
Passive effective health is toxic, especially since it replaces the resource and is only beneficial.
Supreme Senpai698 votesNone of it adds to his theme either, really. He can AA, cool. He has a Q which can crit, applies on hit effects, and is on super low CD. It's basically another AA. That's pretty unique and cool. Then he has a wall that blocks any AA or attack that isn't melee for around 4 seconds. What a powerful ability! Then he has an E, which lets him dash. Pretty essential for a melee character, honestly.
Alright guys! He has a defensive shield to not die, a dash to get in close, and an ability that's a strong auto attack.
Wait... he gets double critical strike chance too. What does that have to do with anything? Oh... he has a personal shield too that charges based on movement. His 3rd Q knocks up enemies hit? His dashes speed scales with his movement speed and increases in damage every time he uses it. His ult does damage... but also gets a free 50% armpor pen boost for 15 seconds.
I'm not even going to make the argument he's OP because I've seen Yasuos feed more than they carry. But his kit is so fucking scattered. There's no cohesion or theme, rhyme or reason. It's just a dozen small complicated things sprinkled over his kit that no other champions get. Why can't he just have 4 abilities and a passive like everyone else? >_>
Spaceman5pff13 votesActually, as much as I hate yasuo, he has an incredibly cohesive theme that was VERY well executed by Riot. This is why he is so damn popular.
His entire theme is around that of a Samurai, and his 3 core concepts are Strike, Dash, and Parry. Here is a really cool video about it by a really awesome youtuber: https://youtu.be/QBLP83gfq10?t=1m
Again, I HATE YASUO. But he has one of the better, more cohesive and well executed themes in the game. He is just toxic crap that I hate.
Death and Doom6 voteswell look at riven, shes melee, and she doesn't have a wind wall that blocks everything. Yasuo is just a mistake.
chipndip13 votesPeople hated Riven just as much when she wasn't even as popular. EVERYONE HATES SKIRMISHERS. Shit never changes.
Spaceman5pff1 votes
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he might be one of the few skirmishers i don't think have become toxic crap.
Probably because he relies on REAL damage items to deal damage, and beefcake items to be a beefcake. No extra bullshit
chipndip12 votesYou do realize Wu Kong is a diver, right?
Mokkun16 votesTo be fair, been nerfed, and no longer cancerous, are not the same thing.
He got an attack speed buff to his damage build (because he builds aspd), and he's plenty cancerous playing straight.
Miku Append5 votesThey need to stop compensating nerfs with buffs. He need not need an attack speed buff. Last time I checked, a champion gets nerfed because it's an issue, and his attack speed wasn't ever the issue.
Bladerunner77773 votesThey compensated because Riot promotes squishy Yasuo while trying to erase Tank Yasuo, not delete the champion from the game like Azir
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesYes and that's the problem. It doesn't even affect his tank build at all i promise you. PD will just be the new core on tanksuo. Yasuo is fotm the entire season and it would be time to finally give him the nerf bat. But riot refuses because favoritism.
Bladerunner77772 votesYasuo wasn't ruining competitive play like Azir was
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spam aside, i completely agree. The sheer mindless hate of him is ridiculous, people just jump at everything they find mildly annoying about his kit and call it heresy.
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spam aside, i completely agree. The sheer mindless hate of him is ridiculous, people just jump at everything they find mildly annoying about his kit and call it heresy.
"mildly" annoying
Marshbouy3 votes"why does yasuo have a short CD on his ult" because his ult deals little damage by itself and is essentially an extension of his Q.
Jefftiffy9 votes"why does yasuo have a short CD on his ult" because his ult deals little damage by itself and is essentially an extension of his Q.
Let's just pretend it doesn't nullify armor and act as a gap closer and increases his AA range slightly.
Marshbouy2 votes"Nullifies armor" Lol. Salty player detected
Jefftiffy8 votes"Nullifies armor" Lol. Salty player detected
Hm... Troll detected. Apparently if Yasuo hits an ADC with ult it is fair that he gets armor pen against the tank. Oh wait. It isn't because Yasuo doesn't even have to knock anyone airborne himself to use it. You can't balance Yasuo around his solo laning when he has massive utility if one of your teammates even has a displacement (which is fairly common now).
As long as Yasuo has the combination of: Free massive armor pen, free crits, a wall he can vomit out with .1s to spare in the wrong direction to eat projectiles, spammable gapclosers/dodges, and a sustain passive, that also procs on his ult, he cannot be balanced. His kit is pure cancer because it is overloaded similar to 
. How you nerf Yasuo is take away some of his utility. I personally think its literally just adding a cast time to his wind wall and making it appear at it's max distance. Maybe make it like .3s cast time so he can't fuck up and still use it well.
If you want proof that Yasuo is cancer/good: http://www.lolking.net/champions He is 4th most banned at 46% (may drop with bug fix). 7th in pick rate. He is first in win rate at 54% (doesn't mean all the much till about a week from now).
Leetri2 votesThe AR Pen only works on his crits, btw.
The D0rk Knight5 votesWhy the fuck does that matter when he has 100 percent crit with 2 items???
BIH Diamond2 votesBecause if he builds crit he's squishy like an adc.
manbearswine12 votesYou are implying the yasuo hate has much to do with his bugs or overall power, those just added to the hate, but his kit is completely moronic and always has been that way, the yasuo hate never goes away or appears out of nowhere, it's always there.
Trashlord Kayden11 votessadly people will always think that what they can not mechanically out play needs nerfing.
Dextix LT14 votesThe problem is that you cant mechanically outplay a yasuo, he can only outplay himself due to the nature of his kit.
BIH Diamond1 votesYou can easily mechanically outplay him. The fact that you think you can't proves you are silver/gold and bad
Dextix LT1 votesNo, you can't. Especially if you are a ranged champion with skillshots.
You can only counter him. You cannot outplay him. He has every tool he needs to make you useless if you use skillshots. The only way you can win in such a match up is if the yasuo is simply bad. He needs to outplay himself. How to deal with his w? Hope he is bad enough to waste it. How to deal with his mobility? The same way, hope he is bad enough to capitalize on it.
For your information i am platinum/diamond, while it is not really THAT high, it is high enough for me to be a relatively good player. Also you should not bring up ranks when you are gold yourself. Yasuo is hard to play, i can agree to that point, i actually ban yasuo because i dont want my team to play him in my elo, because you have a lot of diamond 5 yasuo players who are not good. But he is too strong otherwise.
Unless you counter yasuo with specific champions, the only counterplay he has, is him fucking up. His main problem is his W. I repeated this from his release when he still had balance problems. All you need is to remove or change his w. It does not belong as an ability on an ad carry. It has far too much power.
His w has always been the thing that people complained about and that is the worst part of his kit. Not his damage or mobility, because that makes him unique, but his windwall.
BIH Diamond1 votesNo, you can't. Especially if you are a ranged champion with skillshots.
If you're playing Ahri you can R around his Wall and shit on him. It's possible. You just don't understand the game.
Btw yasuo is designed to beat skillshot reliant champs. You're not supposed to beat him by being braindead.
useless if you use skillshots.
Would be like me saying "Zed is broken, he has every tool to make adcs useless"
Uh yeah, that's his design and role ?
For your information i am platinum/diamond
Plat with a 49% win rate maining the easiest role (support) in EUNE. Definitely good!
Also you should not bring up ranks when you are gold yourself.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=left+hook+larry
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=aka+volibear
Unless you counter yasuo with specific champions, the only counterplay he has, is him fucking up.
This might be true if you're playing Gnar or something. But no shit if you pick skilshot reliant chcamp into him you will struggle unless you outplay him. THAT'S HIS DESIGN LMAO. He's suppose to counter these champs. He gets shit on by any bruiser/tank/assassin. He's a melee adc.
All you need is to remove or change his w. It does not belong as an ability on an ad carry. It has far too much power.
Why is Jhin allowed to build assassin Items and one shot me from a screen away? Yasuo is melee. His windwall is his only way for him to not to get instantly one shot in melee ranged.
Dextix LT1 votesIf you're playing Ahri you can R around his Wall and shit on him. It's possible. You just don't understand the game.
Btw yasuo is designed to beat skillshot reliant champs. You're not supposed to beat him by being braindead.
You can r around his wall, and he can go through it with no problems. Because it blocks from both directions, not one.
And you can't really properly beat him as a skillshot reliant champ unless the yasuo is bad. He dictates how the lane goes because he is the one with the windwall.
Would be like me saying "Zed is broken, he has every tool to make adcs useless"
Uh yeah, that's his design and role ?
Nice out of context quote, and no, no other champion can make an entire role of champions useless. Assasins such as zed have an easier time to kill squishies, but they cannot make them entirely useless with 1 ability.
Gonna ignore about the rank part because that is not even a good point, especially since your statement about supports show how much you know...
This might be true if you're playing Gnar or something. But no shit if you pick skilshot reliant chcamp into him you will struggle unless you outplay him. THAT'S HIS DESIGN LMAO. He's suppose to counter these champs. He gets shit on by any bruiser/tank/assassin. He's a melee adc.
The point is is that you cant outplay him, he can only outplay himself, because he is the one in control of his windwall. Not you, not your toplaner, not your jungler, it is him who controls the wall.
Countering is not the same as making someone useless if played well.
And no he does not get shit on by bruisers, tanks or assasins, only specific champions in those categories counter him. But every champ has counters (Even pre nerf kassadin) it ddoesnt make them balanced or not frustrating.
His kit has tools to fuck up all of those roles. He beats bruisers with mobility, tanks with his sutained damage paired with his ultimate and assasins with his passive paired with his windwall (Many assasins have projectiles actually) and burst damage.
