Wait a minute, wtf happened to Taliyah?

thacrazytaco·9/29/2016, 12:28:26 PM·5 votes·1,116 views

How did she drop to 43% winrate? Just above azir, I remember I said she had azir syndrome but I wasn't completely serious wut happened

23 Comments

Inquisitor Kane9/29/2016, 12:44:14 PM5 votes

The bonus dmg on minions was well deserved. That was too oppressive and too much power.

But the other dmg nerfs were too much and that killed her.

Also keep in mind she was pick/ban in LCS. That means she needed stronger nerfs because if played on full potential she was OP.

But while that nerf may be OK for top players and she is not in LCS only because other champs have better numbers... that also means her win rate will plummet as small nerf for LCS is more and more devastating the lower you go elo-wise.

Catastrop9/29/2016, 1:52:01 PM4 votes

Rito happened.

Blue Moon Wolf9/29/2016, 9:40:28 PM2 votes

The real question is why did they remove the upcoming buff that reduces the cooldown of her Q by 50% on worked ground? All she is getting out of the next patch is a minor health regen boost (that honestly feels like their generic go to "we know champ X is having issues, so here is something to acknowledge that"), a 1 second reduction to her Q CD and the time worked ground stays for is getting reduced to what ARAM has (which I still don't know if that means it will be even less in ARAM or if it will stay the same). With her being in such a bad spot, now is the perfect opportunity to make it feel like there is a better reason to stand on worked ground than a minor ms boost and 50% of your Q's cost for 1/5 of the damage output.

Astôlfo9/29/2016, 1:01:44 PM1 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/0mhAA3Wu-thanks-for-nerfing-taliyah-riot?comment=0000

Riot made her a zoning pressure and disruptor mage.

Then they removed lockout and changed casting method to an easier one, and as a result, added a burst mage playstyle.

Then they added bonus Q damage which also made her a waveclear/splitpusher mage.

"Surprisingly", she did good in pro play. So they gutted her. Thanks Riot.

lilpokfluf9/29/2016, 2:09:55 PM1 votes

Less wave clear means you can't go bot/top without missing a wave. Then if you fail the gank you lose much more than a cool down and eventually fall behind. The only way she could keep up was the wave clear. I think they should've have lowered her burst and kept the wave clear make her more of a supportive TF roam play style.

Sniper 09/29/2016, 2:13:48 PM1 votes

Didn't the revert the instacast on her w? o.o I mean I'm not sure but the delay seems huge. ><

inplane9/29/2016, 7:53:00 PM1 votes

They nerfed every single strength she had. Shove & roam is non-existent. Utility isn't very good. Zoning is a joke. LolKillingpower. She's only good between levels 3-7 and midgame. Anything outside of those time periods and she's obsolete.

Calabok9/30/2016, 4:17:26 AM1 votes

The nerfs were a good thing. she really was oppressive at mid when she was OP. Now, you really need to PLAY her and not just coast and watch some TV while you play her an crap like that.

Hyperiön9/29/2016, 12:31:02 PM1 votes

Because Rito gutter her because of her strong playmaking in LCS.

Rockm Sockm9/30/2016, 12:01:48 PM1 votes

She got aurelion sol'd.

She is suppose to push and roam so tjey nerfed her ability to do that.

Of course she is still far safer and better than him at doing it.

Tyrone Lannister9/29/2016, 12:31:31 PM1 votes

They nerfed her pushing power. She cant shove like she used to

Veraska9/29/2016, 12:35:45 PM1 votes

They nerfed her 2 damaging abilities a lot