So Taliyah is azir 2.0

thacrazytaco·9/9/2016, 1:18:54 PM·44 votes·3,780 views

Complete garbage for the common player, broken for the pros. Though riot hit azir so hard with the nerf bat I don't see him anywhere anymore. I'm trying to find Taliyahs strength now. She has a weak early game, no damage so the most she can do is snowball other lanes so a mediocre mid game, and a weak late game where she's basically just a utility bot of slows, walls, and knock ups. I guess she's a support?

I saw somewhere Taliyaha winrate dropped to 42%, it might go up a few more but that's it imo.

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Astôlfo9/9/2016, 4:54:09 PM15 votes

Riot: "Who wants W to be changed to vector cast?" Taliyah mains/frequent players/those with a lot of experience on her: "not us" People who know jackshit about her and/or almost never played her if at all: "us" Riot: Let's listen to people who know nothing.

Now, replace Riot's question with "Who wants the lockout removed"/"Who wants the other W changes that came along with the vector cast change"/"Who wants unnecessary buffs for Worlds and then crushing nerfs to proceed to gut her afterwards?".

Thanks Riot. Love you too.

Gladiore679/9/2016, 5:39:41 PM13 votes

As a taliyah player with 80 or so ranked games with her her q is offically one of the worst abilites to use on minions in the game takes 2-3 q's on unworked ground to clear a wave aswell as your combo is not enough to kill an adc if the adc has maw It would take you hitting 10 qs and your full combo she is outclassed in every aspect by other mages at this point even sol outroams her now

IPromiseTomorrow9/9/2016, 1:31:04 PM10 votes

I havn't seen her even before the nerfs. I really hope she doesn't become Azir and gets gutted. Because the pros in LCS dominated with the champ.

Then now the 0.01% influenced nerfs. It's only 0.01% that really showed how good he was.

Hope it doesn't happen again to Taliyah.

Critmaster Garen9/9/2016, 2:13:31 PM5 votes

http://champion.gg/champion/Taliyah

63% winrate on people who played a lot of games with her, and higher than average play rate for a mid laner. she was nerfed for worlds.

i think my best moment with her so far was in an aram game in a standoff with a syndra. we were both incredibly low on health, with all our cooldowns ready. she was hiding in the bush next to our second turret, while i was on the opposite side of the lane.

the moment she stepped out of th bush, i ulted and knocked her into my turret with the wall for the kill.

ThePartyLeader9/9/2016, 9:11:45 PM5 votes

Not riots fault most players are to terrible to use utility champions correctly.

Hrd2H1t9/10/2016, 1:23:28 AM4 votes

She was balanced on release in my opinion But Riot saw her low winrate and was like "LET US CHANGE EVERYTHING"

Blakiepug9/10/2016, 1:10:56 AM4 votes

Oh please, Taliyah got nerfed but she is still viable. I don't mean to be rude but Azir has been destroyed by his nerf, removing a lot of the utility that I thought made him fun, in exchange for high damage but then they nerfed his damage anyways. Azir is a shell of a champion, Taliyah is still fun and can have high moments. Think of all the different and unique things you can do with her kit. Now think of what you can do with Azir. She has a lot more potential to be fun and a lot more options which is what I feel makes her (and used to make Azir) so unique.

Sorry, I am just seriously pissed off at how Riot throws certain champions in the dumpster and forgets about them.

CerealBoxOfDoom9/9/2016, 5:43:46 PM4 votes

more like Taliyah is azir 9.0

ironically her lore suggests that she descends from azirs people xD

Evewynn9/9/2016, 6:21:40 PM4 votes

Aurelion Sol is also Azir 2.0

Unlucky479/10/2016, 4:36:39 AM3 votes

Is this thread serious? Taliyahs q can take half of someones health at level 1, and her full combo at level 3 is enough to kill some mid laners. ESPECIALLY if you poke them once or twice with her q. And unlike azir who actually had some difficulty in my mind, a taliyah with rylais has to land one ability and then that person is dead due to either her e, w combo, or her q hitting them afterwards. She is ridiculously strong as one of the mages that build health and ap items. My problem with her is the same problem i have with sol. That she can have upwards of 2,500 health and still instant burst anyone with around 2000. You cant get close enough to her to kill her and if you do, you probably wont do enough damage anyways.

Supreme Senpai699/9/2016, 7:00:02 PM3 votes

I tried to main Aurelion Sol jungle before the W colldown nerf and the ult nerf, and now there's massive nerfs on the PBE too. They might not go through but it goes to show they're planning even more nerfs for the guy. It feels like these two new champs just can't see play

Hyperiön9/9/2016, 1:26:10 PM3 votes

She still has damage, but her farming took a huge nerf because she can't just Q a wave and it all dies.

Blåbæret9/9/2016, 5:05:56 PM2 votes

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Complete garbage for the common player, broken for the pros. Though riot hit azir so hard with the nerf bat I don't see him anywhere anymore. I'm trying to find Taliyahs strength now. She has a weak early game, no damage so the most she can do is snowball other lanes so a mediocre mid game, and a weak late game where she's basically just a utility bot of slows, walls, and knock ups. I guess she's a support?

I saw somewhere Taliyaha winrate dropped to 42%, it might go up a few more but that's it imo.

No damage, what? She can kill you with one ability.

Drugoth9/9/2016, 8:55:13 PM1 votes

Just curious... How did you guys aim the direction of the push on her W before the vector change?