no, rengar does not perform as well now as he did previously

math crab·1/30/2016, 4:19:41 AM·110 votes·4,814 views

yes, that was kind of the point

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Troiann1/30/2016, 4:21:14 AM15 votes

They nerfed Rengar and left ahri untouched. Ahri players had less average games on their champ, 5% higher winrate, and 10% higher pickrate.

Bias or nah?

Blitzedlegend1/30/2016, 4:50:43 AM8 votes

I like the new rengar especially with stormraiders surge, it is fun very fun, also, build jungle item>hydra>ghostblade>deaths dance>bloodthirstier and fit boots in anywhere, works like a charm

garRen 1/30/2016, 11:50:50 PM5 votes

the nerf to rengars bola was what led to this fuckfest. the bola just made rengar more clunky and wierd to play and not fun. nerfs are meant to make champs weaker (such as the onhit q nerf), not to make the champ feel worse to play) you can say rengar is overpowered and ill agree for the sake of it. even though as a rengar main i can say that rengar has a hard time killing squishies if team simply group. most people complaining are just low elo playyers that dont know how to counter these champs. there should alos be a seperate tab for pinks late game. salty vaynes gonna downvote to hell

Nuparu1/30/2016, 9:47:47 AM5 votes

The main thing they're doing is making him still fluid while nerfing his numbers a bit to make him less oppressive.

They're not going to do what they did to Akali to Rengar (make her ridiculously not fluid and rather clunky), and seeing as to how they're buffing Akali the wrong way, they probably need a dev like that for her too. They're giving Rengar counterplay (no more bolas right as he lands, so you can dodge it, as well as number drops and indicator increases) but they're going to align it to something not shitty for both parties.

Luxrath1/30/2016, 3:37:41 PM4 votes

No a rengar built tank will not come close to one shotting a carry. Hes an assassin with high burst damage and no escapes. Pubs hate him cuz the team usually isnt coordinated enough to group up and throw cc on the squishies when he tries to gank em. He goes in, gets a kill and dies. OR he goes in tries to get a kill and dies. If its more then that, hes fed af or your team is incompetent. Personally i feel like assassins that can go in and lay waste to an enemy team and get out safely (jax, lee sin, zed) are far more unhealthy. That beng said the nerfs dont look like they will kill him completely. Theres always that new assassin item.

Enrovy1/30/2016, 6:18:46 PM4 votes

ahri at least u can dodge her skills, her aa doesnt do as much as rengar, but u cant really dodge an auto can u now?

Devo Hes1/30/2016, 5:52:58 PM3 votes

I've never been a great Rengar player but mediocre and I thoroughly enjoyed playing Rengar before, but with the cast time on his e I find it nearly impossible to land as you either throw it before you jump (revealing yourself ) or you throw it after you land as they sidestep/flash/blink/dash.

Unless the Rengar is fed af you would usually use your empowered bola for the lock down but it's not longer viable to use unless you plan on landing first using a couple aa then throwing the bola.

Every Rengar I've seen has done terrible as well as every time I play him.

Dumpster tier. Ruined a legit fun to play champion

1Maza1/31/2016, 2:01:20 AM2 votes

Rengar was already balanced. Yeah, he gets to delete one person every time his ult is up, which is every 40 seconds late game. If you're actually playing the game correctly, the rest of your team will delete him as soon as he does this and now it's a 4v4. And if he doesn't have ult, he's literally useless. Like more useless than Blitz without his Q. Wow such broken. QQ more plebs.