Now I don't play Kat, and usually only see one once every 15 or so games. But is it me or does Riot have a knack for nerfing the wrong things everytime? I'm almost 95% sure the bonus ad ratio on Kat's Shunpo isn't what makes her overbearing... It's that almost 1:1 scaling passive with rediculous base damage tied in with her ultimate.... Right now you can pretty much just E,W,R and delete someone before they even know what happened.
Let me know what you guys think.
Veraska5 votesHee dagger spins have counterplay where her shunpo does not, this ad nerf combined with the gun blade nerfs are going to tone down a bit of her instant or upfront burst damage
Not saying ur wrong about her passive procs being too strong. I can just see riots reasoning for nerfing shunpo instead
Penns2 votesI dont think so, the damage of her E is a big part of her early all in (especially with a long sword), which is what they want to nerf.
Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votesShunpo is basically where a lot of Katarina's early damage comes from, it's basically crucial to her early game cheese. With Q + W you can get 3 uses out of shunpo in one very short fight, not too mention it's AA reset.
A 55% AP ratio till level 6 (1:1 ratio judgement is reasonable tho, it's kinda bonkers) on a champion who doesn't build any AP till second item (Long Swords for life) isn't all that fantastic.
Nerfing Shunpo is the way to go.
LemurMonster1 votesNerfing Shunpo is the way to go.
This this this!! I am so disgusted on how much she can spam it!
https://youtu.be/IxjNB5nllf8?t=16m25s Watch this video on what I mean. oh my god it made me so angry..
Chroud2 votesWhat she needs nerfed is the fact she has almost a permanent flash built into her kit. She can escape almost all situation and get out... Also while doing extreme dmg..
Im not saying get rid of it but maybe increase the cool down timers on it. Other then that I think shes in a good healthy spot right now.
SpookyNeedle2 votesThey're nerfing her level 2 all in potential. A massive part of her early laning
Jiharu1 votesYou don't have to shunpo to your passive to get the CD reduction on it, so you can get q e walk behind them get passive proc q without w. It's her lv2 power spike that's getting her snowballed so early. Sure her passive is slightly overturned, but it is dodgable and too often people run through it instead.
Sire Hippington1 votesThe big thing that you are missing is that it's TOTAL-AD, so it also affects the 'base'-damage of her E quite alot, and gunblade is a cummon rush item on her aswell. The big issue about Kata isn't her dagger damage, as that's actually rather easy to avoid and allows counterplay. The big issue is how much damage her point n click E with the constant resets does way to much damage, especially early on. Even if you avoid her daggers, she can still outtrade most other champs early on with her E resets. However, lowering the basedamage would have been better imo, as the ratio nerf kills the more ad focused off-builts.
DemoGuide1 votesI believe passive radius is a bit high. They should either adjust animation or make it more visible while the dagger is falling to the spot, because sometimes it just feels unfair to be hit by her passive.
P.S. Oh wait: it's because not the spot dagger lands is the center of the AOE, but the Kata herself. Then i would definitely ask for a radius nerf.
Martyrofsand1 votesRiot has refused to learn from their mistakes with Yasuo, Kalista, Kha'zix, hell even vanilla Kat. Anytime any champ in the game is given reset dashes, or low CD dashes of any type at any point in the game for any reason it breaks the champ to a completely unbalancable state. No mater what they do those champs will never be balanced as long as they have those mechanics they will either be way to strong and completely ruin every game they are in or they will be complete garbage and ruin every game they are in.
Either way they ruin every game they are in meaning they have zero business being in the game if the objective is a healthy game state, the mechanics not the champs.
