Champions designed by CertainlyT are incredibly toxic

Talamare··6 votes·977 views

Tell me if you disagree that these champions have had more negative uproar than others

Darius Zed Thresh Yasuo Kalista

In general these champions have not only raised incredible amount of community outcry, but have also topped ban/pick list. No one wants to play against them.

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The Red Warden6 votes

The main problem with his champs is that they all have so many mechanics while existing in the same game as champions like Olaf who barely come close to their levels of complexity. If all the champions in LoL were like CT's then they would barely be noticeable but all champions arn't so we get left with them needing countless nerfs or buffs for everyone else.

Direwolfiez3 votes

I don't get why CertainlyT doesn't just quit Riot and go work for Valve on Dota 2, he'd fit in so much better there.

ULTRAF0RCE2 votes

I don't personally believe they are toxic champions, I think that they are champions with interesting ideas, that may have too many cool ideas at the same time.

Thresh is a good support none of his ability are targeted so he feels like a champion that you need to be skilled at to play, zed has some really cool mechanics with his shadows, and it feels incredible when you beat a zed because of his massive out play potential

Talamare3 votes

I don't personally believe they are toxic champions, I think that they are champions with interesting ideas, that may have too many cool ideas at the same time.

Thresh is a good support none of his ability are targeted so he feels like a champion that you need to be skilled at to play, zed has some really cool mechanics with his shadows, and it feels incredible when you beat a zed because of his massive out play potential

It feels incredible to beat a Zed because you basically beat a champion that is likely significantly better than yours

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/by-banrate Zed and Yasuo dominating the ban rate

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/comps Thresh / Kalista dominating the comp rate, Thresh and Kalista in general dominating the pick rate too http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats

ULTRAF0RCE1 votes

Just a reminder according to that same list of gold plus, Yasuo has the third lowest win rate, Kalista has the lowest win rate, Darius and zed have 73 and 75 as how good their win rate and thresh has 92, this seems to prove to me that they are not quite as overbearing as you believe http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/by-winrate

Talamare1 votes

Just a reminder according to that same list of gold plus, Yasuo has the third lowest win rate, Kalista has the lowest win rate, Darius and zed have 73 and 75 as how good their win rate and thresh has 92, this seems to prove to me that they are not quite as overbearing as you believe http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/by-winrate

That actually points to them being even more poorly designed Not only are they insanely overbearing with insanely overloaded kits, that feels absolutely terrible playing against them but they don't even do very well...

Talamare2 votes

In general these champions have not only raised incredible amount of community outcry, but have also topped ban/pick list until they were gutted to be ineffective

xl Kirito lx2 votes

I love seeing these champions, and playing against them. They all have clearly defined weaknesses that allow for the potential to outplay. They also require a good amount of skill to play, which just adds to your opportunity to outplay them.

Angry Monster1 votes

i love how people throw around the word toxic. It no longer has the meaning it was supposed to.

DarthSpectrum1 votes

I raise you: Fizz, Kassadin, Le Blanc, Akali, and Talon.

At least CertainlyT's champions can be outplayed to a degree, as well as only being effective once one is familiar with them. I rather have these type of champion archetypes than the ones I listed above, who literally win fights by having better ratios and stats or spam-mable invulnerability mechanics.

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