3/10 
getting a quadra 3v5 and literally 2 shotting our squishy team
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Can we stop pretending this champion has counterplay in the current meta ?
Flavi Kang19 votesYeah you could have bought zhonyas/stopwatch to cuck him but you didn't. So lets nerf a champion because you didn't bother to buy items to counter him and he got a quadra vs 2 supports, 2 immobile mages and a rengar, in an ARAM game.
For your information, THE CHAMPIONS IN THE GAME ARE BALANCED AROUND SUMMONER'S RIFT, AND NOT ARAM MODE.
Holy shit the boards is a mess.
Kurt Hyzan7 votesDid he bother to buy magic resist while being behind ?
Automated Riven10 votesIt's Aram. Behind is like 800 gold or something.
Bârd7 votesI checked this game.
op.gg says his highest multikill was 2.
Take that as you will.
Nut on my Butt15 votesOh wow, a reset champion stringing together multiple kills in ARAM. That's totally unheard of and never happens.
Also, you're showing the KDA's as if he's behind or something, but it's ARAM, you're both the same level, he has two full damage items and you have no survivability in your build whatsoever as a squishy champion. Obviously he's going to cut you down if he gets in range, there are several champions who can do that.
Anin7771 votesSo he isn't busted in Solo Q? Dude's the fourth most banned champ currently.
Marshbouy8 votesWhere in Daddy Issues' comment did he say that he wasn't busted in solo Q?
OP is using ARAM to justify nerfs to a champion on SUMMONERS RIFT.
Sadly that's not how balancing items champions works.
Anin7771 votesOP's comment is making it sound like it's only an ARAM issue because it's not. Ofc ARAM isn't to be used to balance but the underlying message is that the champ is busted right now.
Marshbouy1 votesHe's commenting about how the gamemode ARAM affects how well Yi does in ARAM.
It is a true statement that "being behind" in aram is only a little bit of gold. It is a true statement that any champion with resets does well in ARAM.
You're reading too far into this.
Anin7771 votesNot reading far into anything. What's the point of bringing up that it was in ARAM? The post was meant to make known how busted Yi was. The dude I replied deflected the point to something else.
Marshbouy1 votes... ... Daddy Issues is explaining how the gamemode ARAM effects champions such as Yi. He does this by pointing out that yi being 3/10 in ARAM is mostly meaningless because of the high passive gold gen and low kill gold. He also points out (in a sarcastic way) that champions with reset abilities always do extremely well in ARAM.
You can't translate the "broken-ness" of a champion from one gamemode to another. If that were so, then Lux, Sona, Xerath, etc. should all be gutted on SR because they're extremely good on ARAM.
Anin7771 votesSigh. You're obviously intentionally missing the point. Good day sir.
Jinzo Torrance14 votesEven if you ult him as Malz he just get QSS and shits on your 18 base armor ass anyway
Sleepcoma2 votesok if he has a qss why in the world would you ever ult him??? your basically wasting your ult. now you know how playing assassins feels against zhonyas
Bârd10 votesAlright, so here's some context.
The lineups were as follows
VS
Pika Fox7 votesYoure playing in aram. Yis only useful in aram because you cant make a teamcomp yourself. You got a bad roll. Doesnt mean anything about yi himself.
Kurt Hyzan13 votesBruh we had (we won this game). It's just that no champion in the game having such a bad kda is able to almost 1v4 after 2 items
Pika Fox7 votesNone of your team could realistically stop yi. Nami bubble and thresh Q arent super easy to land, and youre all squishy enough to die pretty much instantly other than thresh depending on build.
Also; k/d/a means literally nothing in aram. Most gold is generated passively, and if he died more than you then hes spent more than you. Him being 0/500/0 means nothing in aram.
KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ9 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=weZZYpok,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-06-22T19:36:39.290+0000)
None of your team could realistically stop yi. Nami bubble and thresh Q arent super easy to land, and youre all squishy enough to die pretty much instantly other than thresh depending on build.
Also; k/d/a means literally nothing in aram. Most gold is generated passively, and if he died more than you then hes spent more than you. Him being 0/500/0 means nothing in aram.
Please go feed in aram and see if your kda wont matter ty/ hint/ it matters more than summoners rift.
Ayzev3 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=weZZYpok,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-06-22T19:36:39.290+0000)
Also; k/d/a means literally nothing in aram. Most gold is generated passively
Just played a game that says otherwise. Unless a 3k difference is literally nothing.
Automated Riven3 votesI would love to compare team gold between your team and the Enemy team.
Automated Riven2 votesso first team with 61K and 43 kills. team two had 66k with 55 kills.
So assuming towers were completely even and the only difference was kills, that means the value of a kill was about, 416 gold. Seems like the shutdowns really really hurt. or it was like 5 towers to none or something like that.
nGio1 votesMy last game played today
KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ7 votes[{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=weZZYpok,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-22T19:04:40.841+0000)
Youre playing in aram. Yis only useful in aram because you cant make a teamcomp yourself. You got a bad roll. Doesnt mean anything about yi himself.
Zoe/rengar/thresh/velkoz/nami are bad rolls? are you mad?
Pika Fox5 votesInto a yi? Yes.
Automated Riven7 votesNami Is good into Yi. Throw bubble at alpha struck target. (this is only useful if the ally isn't braindead tho)
(Plus ulti into bubble is pretty consistent)
They had a ton of cc, shoulda been able to control yi easily. Velkoz can do the same as Nami And so can thresh. The team comps with like 7 seconds of layered cc lets me know they just played badly. Bonus points cause there is no replay.
Pika Fox3 votesThey had too much conditional CC. Yi ult + Q was enough to dodge a lot of it. Nami Q is a great secondary CC, thresh has difficulties landing Q into an engaging target. Really just comes down to how good both players are.
Nami ult was really the only useful CC here into chaining CC.
Automated Riven1 votesWhen yi q's (which he is forced to do if people say throw a thresh q at him from rather close range (which yi wants btw)) the its painfully obvious where he is going to come out. Right on top of the champion he q'd into. this is essentually a cc, because you now know exactly where he is gonna be in .75-1 second. (not sure of the exact length of time but my muscle memory is solid) that leads to all the follow up cc. nami bubble/ vel knockup/zoe sleep/ thresh flay/nami ult/ Thats like 5-6 seconds of cc that can easily be layered. so ya. They fucked up.
Pika Fox1 votesIts not always that easy. If the target dies, Yi goes back to original cast area (unless they changed that), number of targets in range changes time you come out of alpha, etc. You really want a good sure fire thing for the initial CC, so leading nami ult into CC would be the best bet.
Automated Riven1 votesits not that simple, Your correct. I was saying, the counterplay was there. They just did it wrong.
Sleepcoma1 votesrengar is useless without his ult and cant realistically ever kill yi as long as yi has meditate up or is near some minions to alpha strike to, but yeah the rest is a good team comp, if they built any armor items or had a tank
hi ìm groot6 votesYi's at a 38% w/r in challenger so... someones counterplaying him lol.
TempName548463 votesi would very much like a source on that claim
hi ìm groot1 votesi would very much like a source on that claim
TempName548461 votesthose are not challenger stats though ...
Naymliss3 votesIt's a team effort to bring a yi down(including how teamfights break down, positioning of carries and peel, warding, rotations, etc), and teamwork in challenger is vastly superior to the teamwork in anything else.
Sleepcoma1 votesnot saying yi is broken because I don't think he is, but win rate doesn't reflect how good a champion is
hi ìm groot1 votesnot saying yi is broken because i don't think he is, but win rate doesn't reflect how good a champion is
Win rate does exactly that actually. It's a larger sample size than someone anecdotal experience, and strips away factors like skill. The point of a champion should be to win games, good champions win games.
Sleepcoma1 votesgood players win games, not champions... if you put a mid to high diamond player in a plat game on a weak champion, they would carry the game regardless of champion choice. skill still matters because you can outplay your opponents and get ahead of them in other ways then just killing them
hi ìm groot1 votesgood players win games, not champions... if you put a mid to high diamond player in a plat game on a weak champion, they would carry the game regardless of champion choice. skill still matters because you can outplay your opponents and get ahead of them in other ways then just killing them
You made a comment that "win rate doesn't reflect how good a champion is". This is a statement to champion strength not player. So I think you've confused yourself on your point talking about putting a high diamond champion in a lower tier game. Champion strengths are good to know for climbing in an elo closer to your own, and win rates will tell you that. Also even master smurfs lose quite regularly in platinum, they will play strong champs to to try to not. Plat isn't so bad an elo people go troll shit and still carry just because they are mid-high diamond lol.
Bârd5 votesOr maybe you could stop pretending that ARAM is an accurate reflection of the regular game?
Also, you're playing Zoe and this guy has no QSS, so it's evident that you didn't even do that.
Who Fed Ru5 votesaram w0w
Akali is SO HOT4 votesTfw you use an ARAM game as part of your argument
Blu 12 votesFla$hy Play$
Infernape2 votes-flashes mastery-
rayzo2 votesCan we stop pretending you didn't just get stomped by a Yi and you LITERALLY just went to the boards because of that sole reason?
