Over 30% ban rate, 12.5% play rate and a 52% win rate despite those. Guy is destroying top lane, only way to counter him is by playing Jayce or Riven, and Jayce himself is an overtuned champion. And Riven's mobility counters Darius new Q.
Jax Jungle3 votesYeah... even then Darius can still beat a riven if shes not carefull. What elo are you playing in (just wondering) however he is very op. counter picking can help a lot. When i lane against darius i play draven top. i know it makes things difficult and you may not have your teams support. Also i dont recomend it if you are not real familiar with draven. I mained him for about a season and a half. But its easy to beat him with draven, the range works. Also quinn because if he pulls you just jump off of him, you have higher base movement speed and you jump right out of range of his q. two of his moves are gone and now you can kite him..
Mira Arya Enthe3 votesI am silver, in my tier I beat Darius top as Riven. But he is still massively overtuned.
Jax Jungle2 votesYeah. I believe(just my opinion) riven and dar is a skill matchup. But yes very op and you cant always counter pick i think he should be nerfed.
Ahristocats3 votes[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wX9qPvNw,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-01-21T17:20:28.088+0000) only way to counter him is by playing Jayce or Riven, and Jayce himself is an overtuned champion. And Riven's mobility counters Darius new Q.
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Mira Arya Enthe3 votesAnd yet despite a lot of popular counters his win and play rates are huge with still great win rates. Which is why I was happy to hear he DOES have nerfs on the PBE
Ahristocats2 votesbecause not everyone plays rumble into darius
do they?
but it's a hard counter to him
Arya Riven1 votesTo be fair, Renekton just counters laning period. :)
Ahristocats1 votesof course he does, renekton is renekton what else you expect him to do
if you want to counter darius in teamfight tell your support to pick 
or 
or 
(jungler instead)or 
and enjoy darius not able to move
Arya Riven1 votesI play Riven, Darius isn't a problem for me :) I think he is more of an issue for ADCs and mages more than anything.
Ahristocats1 voteslook at the thread and read it, then you will understand all the posts i did above
Arya Riven1 votesDarius is getting nerfs. I suspect Riven is next. Probably the scaling on her passive or Q.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesfor the most part this is true... but i typically win as maokai in top lane
last game i played as mao i was vs darius in lane, olaf jungle and vayne adc should be hell for me with all that true damage
i went 4-1-18 in that game...
Ahristocats1 votesbecause maokai is a good top laner against darius you harass+waveclear with Q while doding his Q with W and sustain with passive
and makes him unable to move in teamfight
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteswell in lane as mao you have to be someone what passive and not engage in fights... mao needs to hit about lvl 9 to really be effective and scale up. darius has no real cap closer or way to engage... as long as you are able to disengage as mao with your q and w ...
oh and i have taken exhaust top vs darius before and that just crippled him more
Lord Malpercio2 votes loves it when the enemy locks Darius.
Darius Strada2 votesHe has nerfs on the PBE to his Q and passive.
Mira Arya Enthe3 votesGood to hear tbh. Next in line is Jayce and Poppy for top lane. Then likely Riven and GP will need some tuning as the others being toned down will boost them.
Big Lincoln2 votesyes, he is.
doesn't ban rate inflate win rate?
12.5% play rate and a 52% win rate despite those
if you're just arguing stats, 
all need nerfs too, but I don't see anybody lobbying for most of these guys (not including Vi/Hec for obvious reasons)
Penns1 votesThey do minus maybe Jhin and Draven.
Mira Arya Enthe4 votesThese champions have all received a lot of complaints recently as well. If ban rate inflates win rate then Yasuo is 100% balanced. Quite the opposite, it makes it hard for dedicated players to play the champion so those who manage to pick them often do worse.
Ahristocats2 votesYasuo win rate is garbage, it's around 48 or 49% above diamond but riot are nerfing him for all elos where he's around 50 or 51% win rate
Mira Arya Enthe3 votesExactly my point, ban rate deflates win rate. Yasuo's win rate would be higher if people who played him could play him. Same applies to Darius.
Ahristocats2 voteslast time i checked it's 51.9% at all ranks, so no it doesn't deflate
Big Lincoln2 votesit would be better in the long run to just reintroduce Darius's counters
a lot of champs that used to give him trouble in lane have all gotten nerfed hard 
(deserved it tho) 
before jugg rework, or they just couldn't keep up with the pace of the game and how it's shifted. 
have trouble fighting vs a Darius with cotc. and then there's some who just don't get played at all despite being fairly powerful 
darius has a fairly good kit and these nerfs are fair and not severe, but the real issue is season 7 tank top meta shifted him from dropping in winrate to spiking to the top
Mira Arya Enthe3 votesDarius counters are very popular, Riven and Jayce counter him, they are quite popular, Camille can beat him even if not a counter, and is also very popular. Fiora can beat him, and is popular. He 100% deserves the nerfs he is getting.
Big Lincoln4 votesriven isn't a counter and I'm pretty sure you've made snarky posts about how even boxbox loses to Darius players
Jayce is much easier because of coc, Darius crushes Camille, Fiora is a skill matchup that I believe to be in Darius's favor
you listed 1 counter
Arya Riven2 votesRiven merely dodges his Q and he loses. The only trades Riven loses vs Darius are if he hits his Q or gets 5 stacks and she stays in for some reason. New Darius lacks the tools to beat Riven, regardless of what Boxbox does or doesn't do.
Big Lincoln3 votesdarius can interrupt her Q knockup with his E and avoid the free damage she'll do after CC, he can also afford to build some defense before Cleaver because she's fairly squishy.
it's a skill matchup, slightly in Riven's favor (imo) but if either one gets ahead it's over for the other, they both snowball insanely hard
Ahristocats1 votesnot if she stuns you before using Q
Arya Riven2 votesFair enough. I haven't lost to a Darius yet. But then again that is personal experience :) statistics say he wins the matchup 49.46% of the time so it is close.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesIt's funny how the pre-rework Darius was way stronger... just noone was playing him.
Ahristocats2 voteswin lane lose game
Arya Riven1 votesOld Darius was a lane bully with no game winning potential :)
MLDzXnRRR1 votes[{quoted}](name=Arya Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wX9qPvNw,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2017-01-21T18:16:01.756+0000)
Old Darius was a lane bully with no game winning potential :)
I'm pretty sure that his winrate wasn't bad...