About the Yasuo Nerfs

Bultz·Aug 30, 2016·5 votes·5,507 views

Dear Riot,

So you're nerfing Yasuo again i see

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As Yasuo main, someone who has mained the easiest champion to counter, the weakest mid laner for years, couldn't top lane for shit, was hit by nerf after nerf, I just want to say this about the nerfs coming to him because he became viable again after years of shit and abuse and because skill less bchs whined because they weren't good enough to fight him,

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and incase I'm not being clear enough here,

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48 Comments

SlythionAug 30, 201614 votes

it's almost like you're trying to reinforce the "hate yasuo players" mentality of the boards...if not then you truly didn't think this through

on the other hand, I notice how instead of calling yasuo "broken" you called him "viable", despite how these nerfs are actually gonna reduce him to the acceptable success rate where "viable" would be appropriate

So how about you chill then, we understand your broken main is getting nerfed and how upsetting it can be. I had the same thing happen with my Rengar and Shyvana, but shit happens.

DraygenBiscuitAug 30, 20161 votes

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it's almost like you're trying to reinforce the "hate yasuo players" mentality of the boards...if not then you truly didn't think this through

on the other hand, I notice how instead of calling yasuo "broken" you called him "viable", despite how these nerfs are actually gonna reduce him to the acceptable success rate where "viable" would be appropriate

So how about you chill then, we understand your broken main is getting nerfed and how upsetting it can be. I had the same thing happen with my Rengar and Shyvana, but shit happens.

lol why did they even nerf shyvanna? shes so easy to counter...

SlythionAug 30, 20162 votes

Because her clear speed basically ensured she had a gold lead and level lead over most other lanes (it was faster than Udyr's) and with Devourer + Titanic + E + Q that was 2 devourer on-hits + 2 titanic on-hits + 2 e %hp on-hits + Q dmg which did insane damage considering her level+gold lead usually. She really did need a nerf, but they tackled it all way to hard.

They replaced Devourer with Bloodrazor

They nerfed Titanic significantly

They nerfed her Q significantly (early levels)

so they pretty much ensured she would be slightly behind in most situations by severely reducing her clear speed and her mid-late game items. She isn't terrible, but she is a shell of her formal strength and now get's outclassed by a lot of junglers :/

DraygenBiscuitAug 30, 20161 votes

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Because her clear speed basically ensured she had a gold lead and level lead over most other lanes (it was faster than Udyr's) and with Devourer + Titanic + E + Q that was 2 devourer on-hits + 2 titanic on-hits + 2 e %hp on-hits + Q dmg which did insane damage considering her level+gold lead usually. She really did need a nerf, but they tackled it all way to hard.

They replaced Devourer with Bloodrazor

They nerfed Titanic significantly

They nerfed her Q significantly (early levels)

so they pretty much ensured she would be slightly behind in most situations by severely reducing her clear speed and her mid-late game items. She isn't terrible, but she is a shell of her formal strength and now get's outclassed by a lot of junglers :/

Ohh I see I always played her top so I guess the only thing that affected me was the titanic. I just started paying attention to the Pros and the Patch notes recently so I learn something new everyday lol.

SlythionAug 30, 20161 votes

You can learn a lot about the pros, just remember that the competitive scene is much different than solo q/lower elos. It's why champions like Rek'sai and Gragas are such a reliable pick up there but are relatively sub-par in most elos

BultzAug 30, 20162 votes

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it's almost like you're trying to reinforce the "hate yasuo players" mentality of the boards...if not then you truly didn't think this through

on the other hand, I notice how instead of calling yasuo "broken" you called him "viable", despite how these nerfs are actually gonna reduce him to the acceptable success rate where "viable" would be appropriate

So how about you chill then, we understand your broken main is getting nerfed and how upsetting it can be. I had the same thing happen with my Rengar and Shyvana, but shit happens.

How about fuck you. FOr the last 3 years he's been a shit pick. Now that he has a good build hes nerfed hard as fuck. Where are brands nerfs? He's broken af. where are the vaynes nerfs? Where are the veigar nerfs? oh wait they were all buffed. Broken pieces of shit buffed. Hes had the lost mid lan win rate for years and now that we found a way to not be roflstomped the first thing you whiny bchs do is ask for nerfs.

Amumu deserves nerfs too broken ass damage tank, but I don't see you crying to nerf your main.

SlythionAug 30, 20163 votes

Vayne isn't op
Veigar isn't op
Brand isn't op
Amumu is strong in the sense that he provides great cc and has good ganks, but he has a bad early game (and first clear) as well as piss damage late game (and peel unless you don't dive them as his kit is designed). He's at a solid 52.23% winrate with a healthy 7.52% play rate atm, definitely not op

Yasuo, on the other hand, has not been a bad champion for awhile considering his >50% win rate for the past 5 patches. Until the last patch where he skyrocketed to a 55% win rate with a 11.11% (neat, huh) play rate. That's with a ban-rate of a whopping 42.52% ban rate. He is clearly op.

You shouldn't be attacking other people when you have no proof to back up your rather rude statements. Seriously, take a chill pill and let your babe Yasuo be reduced back to a healthy level of out before blowing up at everyone like a child without any real reason to throw a temper tantrum.

ProfDrDeathAug 30, 20161 votes

Another issue with Amumu for competitive is that his high-impact CC is in his ultimate. Which has a huge cooldown, and without it he is a subpar fighter.

Contrast Rek'Sai, which doesn't need her ult for combat strength, Gragas, who still has a host of CC effects (and a low CD on ult), and Elise and Nidalee, who are both form changers.

Heck, even Kindred is not dependent on her ult for offensive strength. Same for Graves and Lee Sin. And even Hecarim can gank reasonably well without his ultimate, due to the speedboost and knockback on E.

SlythionAug 30, 20161 votes

you speak the truth

MatthewRT2Aug 30, 20167 votes

RIP Gene Wilder

RalanrAug 30, 20161 votes

T_T

MysteriousBootieAug 30, 20166 votes

Yasou is cancer and deserves to be gutted. Come at me.

WitchQueen AnnieAug 30, 20166 votes

Good.

I support the Yasuo nerfs. He's annoying as hell to play against. I still hear "HASAGAY!" in my sleep.

MissingKayoAug 30, 20165 votes

quit crying and grow up.

BultzAug 30, 20161 votes

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quit crying and grow up.

Go back to sucking moma's titty boy.

MissingKayoAug 30, 20163 votes

Thanks for proving my point boyo.

BultzAug 30, 20161 votes

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Thanks for proving my point boyo.

Thanks for having no point fk boyo

MissingKayoAug 30, 20163 votes

mmk bud.

TyroneWatermelonAug 30, 20164 votes

1.you don't counter Yasuo,Yasuo counters you. 2.he requires no skill to play. 3.all nerfs were justified,he's the definition of toxic and badly designed champion. 4.Yasuo was never weak and unviable except release Yasuo.

BultzAug 30, 20162 votes

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1.you don't counter Yasuo,Yasuo counters you. 2.he requires no skill to play. 3.all nerfs were justified,he's the definition of toxic and badly designed champion. 4.Yasuo was never weak and unviable except release Yasuo.

once silence and he's dead. 2.Tell me who requires more skill plz. who is so much harder then him tell me.
There are so many much much more toxic champions and the nerfs were in no way justified.
He has been weak and not viable for years that's why no pro players actually pick him. the last time he was in worlds was 3 years ago.

PhDs NutsAug 30, 20163 votes

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once silence and he's dead. 2.Tell me who requires more skill plz. who is so much harder then him tell me.

There are so many much much more toxic champions and the nerfs were in no way justified.

He has been weak and not viable for years that's why no pro players actually pick him. the last time he was in worlds was 3 years ago.

Obvious troll is obvious.

TyroneWatermelonAug 30, 20165 votes

1.only 4 champions in the entire game got silence and even then 3 of them are not reliable. 2.league champs barely requires any skill but I can tell you that 70% of all melee fighter/assassins require more skill than Yasuo. 3.Yasuo is ok the peak of toxicity,and the only few champs that are on the same level are Darius,Vayne,Riven,Fiddlesticks,Rengar,Fizz and Ekko. 4.again,2 months after release Yasuo was always viable,and just because he's viable doesn't make him top tier pick,which LCS only pick the best of the best champs like the tryhards they are. There is a reason why the LCS champion pool is like 20 champs out of 132. Come on-bring some more

BultzAug 30, 20161 votes

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1.only 4 champions in the entire game got silence and even then 3 of them are not reliable.

The silence was a reference in general to all cc, which even a second of a root or stun or etc. kills him even fed hardcore. They nerfed cleanse, nerfed ss, removed zephyr, and all of the tenacity in game doesn't do shit leaving him utterly gutted by anyone with cc.

2.league champs barely requires any skill but I can tell you that 70% of all melee fighter/assassins require more skill than Yasuo.

Name one. Please. I've played all the champions in this game and none are more challenging or harder to play.

3.Yasuo is ok the peak of toxicity,and the only few champs that are on the same level are Darius,Vayne,Riven,Fiddlesticks,Rengar,Fizz and Ekko.

Where are their nerfs then? Vayne just got a buff. Where are the nerfs. Riven just got a buff. Where are the nerfs. I don't remember Yasuo being buffed when he had the absolute lowest win rates in game season 4, or how crappy he was season 5. I don't see Darius nerfs. Fizz was literally a cancer since his creation and he just barely got a nerf. Ekko too. Epic cancer as well as Akali. Where are their ult changing nerfs?

4.again,2 months after release Yasuo was always viable,and just because he's viable doesn't make him top tier pick,which LCS only pick the best of the best champs like the tryhards they are.

Again Yasuo was nerfed on release along with many other times over the years as well as all of his core build items on a constant time scale. If he isn't a top tier pick, and there are better, why nerf him and not them then?

There is a reason why the LCS champion pool is like 20 champs out of 132.

Maybe nerf them instead of none used champions.

Come on-bring some more

What more do you want? you're wrong on every account?

TyroneWatermelonAug 31, 20162 votes

1.the overreaction is pathetic. Even a point and click stun,doesn't guarentee a kill unless he's 1 vs 5 or extremely out of position,or you have a fed bursty champion,by that logic,every melee carry and marksman should be dead of 1 second cc. Heck even glass cannon mages right? 2.Master yi,Vi,Kled,Riven,Zed,Fiora,Lee sin,Jax,Gangplank. Need more? 3.i don't think you understand,but Toxic kit and Overpowered are not the same thing. Riven got random unneeded buff tho,and everyone else are pretty fine right know. 4.hes top tier pick right NoW,and be was all the way back to post release. Unlike other champions,Yasuo was never in a bad position after few months of release and never considered "useless","troll pick","unplayable". 5.this is Riot's problem. They already balance of the champs because of LCS. Go watch some top championship of season 3,4,5,6,some worlds and another bs,and count down and tell me if you have seen more than 1/4 of the champions in the game. 6.What?

BultzSep 1, 20161 votes

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1.the overreaction is pathetic. Even a point and click stun,doesn't guarentee a kill unless he's 1 vs 5 or extremely out of position,or you have a fed bursty champion,by that logic,every melee carry and marksman should be dead of 1 second cc. Heck even glass cannon mages right? 2.Master yi,Vi,Kled,Riven,Zed,Fiora,Lee sin,Jax,Gangplank. Need more? 3.i don't think you understand,but Toxic kit and Overpowered are not the same thing. Riven got random unneeded buff tho,and everyone else are pretty fine right know. 4.hes top tier pick right NoW,and be was all the way back to post release. Unlike other champions,Yasuo was never in a bad position after few months of release and never considered "useless","troll pick","unplayable". 5.this is Riot's problem. They already balance of the champs because of LCS. Go watch some top championship of season 3,4,5,6,some worlds and another bs,and count down and tell me if you have seen more than 1/4 of the champions in the game. 6.What?

1.Your opinion is not given a fuck over. Have you tried playing Yasuo against anyone decent at Brand, kat, annie, xerath, anyone? Bruh Yasuo gets melted. They do half health damage at level 1 so wtf are you on.

2.Again not one you mentioned is harder. Zed? Yi? fiora, lee sin, you're fucking kidding right.

3.Toxic kit, you suck and can't outplay a champion. Overpowered, you can't fight them their strong. Yasuo is neither. One stun, root, knock up, anything and he's done. He literally does no damage for 30 minutes until he has items. SO if you can't fight him in 30 minutes uninstall.

4.Actually he was nerfed on release and was never a top tier pick. And even if he is a top tier pick, what's you point so are other champions? What shit are you on? He had the lowest win rate season 4. all the nerfs to shiv and ie had him taking beatings. the buff to adc, mages, juggernauts, took him out. He was barely viable and was banned so people wouldn't pick him because they always fed. Do you even league?

Then maybe nerf them and not Yasuo? Yasuo was played once last year in worlds. Once. MAybe nerf the ones being played because their toxic, op, and too oppressive
What what?

TyroneWatermelonSep 2, 20161 votes

I can clearly sense the rage. Let me clarify again; 1.this is the reason you should not engage in arguments,and to be honest,the only trouble I had playing Yasuo versus was Annie and Zed mains. Nothing else. 2.no,I am serious. 3.toxic kit means overloaded low counterplay,irritating to play against,versatility of denial,too muh power given shifted into one element without taking off others,and generally poorly desgined in every sense of way except for the Champion player's expirience. Few parts to mention: I don't suck Yasuo outplays you,you don't outplay Yasuo,the very little you "outplay" Yasuo with is Dodgeing his tornado"skill"shot(when he can point and click EQ it,or baiting his windwall If you think Yasuo deals no damage pre30 min you are clearly lying,Yasuo is a hyper-lane bully like pre nerfed Zed,gets gigantic unneeded power spike from getting 2 items,and can build tanky while still doing immense damage Actually,I do league,I'm not sure where the fuck you got that Yasuo was unpowered all season 4,but what I do know is just like Lee Sin,Yasuo was ALWAYS one of the most popular champions in the game,and still is today,which means winrate should be not that high. What's funny is that Yasuo's winrate barely even scales with levels and champions like Riven only get averagely 50% winrate when reaching 50+ games,and that only spikes,heck even Garen. 5.nerf them? Im not sure who are "them" and what I want to make from all this post,is that you should blow you "Yazuo iz underpowered skillz mechanix chimp bubble",grow some balls and understand that you favourite champion is not that you think it is,IS over performing and DESERVES nerfs.

SlythionAug 30, 20161 votes

Wasn't he in worlds like...last year. He was picked into C9 Balls' Darius (the game where Balls got a penta) right?

BeatzBoyFTWAug 31, 20162 votes

You might wanna rethink number 3. One, like Slythion said, Yasuo was picked at Worlds once last year & was still just got picked recently. Two, ever heard of a Garen? Have YOU seen him anywhere in LCS, or any competitive matches at all?

BultzAug 31, 20161 votes

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You might wanna rethink number 3. One, like Slythion said, Yasuo was picked at Worlds once last year & was still just got picked recently. Two, ever heard of a Garen? Have YOU seen him anywhere in LCS, or any competitive matches at all?

He was picked once, oh boy!

PermabannedGarenAug 30, 20161 votes

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1.you don't counter Yasuo,Yasuo counters you. 2.he requires no skill to play. 3.all nerfs were justified,he's the definition of toxic and badly designed champion. 4.Yasuo was never weak and unviable except release Yasuo.

He's much harder to play than Aatrox my friend, while also being better designed and less toxic.

Dominick DestineAug 31, 20162 votes

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1.you don't counter Yasuo,Yasuo counters you. 2.he requires no skill to play. 3.all nerfs were justified,he's the definition of toxic and badly designed champion.

This.

LadyRenlyAug 31, 20163 votes

cancer lane bully thats a cancer hyper carry, sorry can't be both.

Elite4RunnerAug 30, 20162 votes

Honestly, I don't see these 'nerfs' doing much of anything to him if you weren't playing him full tank. The crit fighter/bruiser builds will pretty much be unaffected, and people will still cry about him afterward.

BultzAug 30, 20161 votes

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Honestly, I don't see these 'nerfs' doing much of anything to him if you weren't playing him full tank. The crit fighter/bruiser builds will pretty much be unaffected, and people will still cry about him afterward.

Not being tanky, you get roflstomped. especially late game, even though he's supposed to be a late game champion he falls short and falls of hard like nasus does.

Elite4RunnerAug 30, 20161 votes

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Not being tanky, you get roflstomped. especially late game, even though he's supposed to be a late game champion he falls short and falls of hard like nasus does.

Right, he is a fighter. He is supposed to have a combination of offensive and defensive items. He is meant to prioritize critical strike chance items, and to make effective use of one or two of them which is why he has the double crit passive. He has relatively high base damage stats because the rest of his kit is meant to be composed of mostly defensive items in order to survive.

The tanksuo problem came from people completely ignoring crit items and getting tank and bruiser items to become very difficult to kill while relying almost completely on his relatively high base damage stats in order to still be a large threat.

Being able to skirmish safely made landing his ultimate relatively easy. As a result he gained free armor pen, which makes his already decent damage even more effective.

Basically, this change only really addresses this last issue, which is why I imagine that people will continue to complain about him until he gets nerfed again. It will help to drive him away from going full tank, which is exactly what Riot is wanting, but he will still be strong. He'll just be strong in the way Riot intends for him to be strong.

AptestAug 30, 20162 votes

Here is the current situation in my games: every game, 3-4 players (the mid/tops of both teams) want to play yasuo. 3-4 other players are bored of the game because they see yasuo all the time and would like a change.

one of these groups has to tough it out.

how about a compromise: all the real yasuo mains get to continue playing him, all the abusers who can't handle having tons of options and rely on raw stat power, can just fail and go play garen?

both of us win. but yasuo has to get a nerf to make this happen.

your reply?

BultzAug 30, 20161 votes

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Here is the current situation in my games: every game, 3-4 players (the mid/tops of both teams) want to play yasuo. 3-4 other players are bored of the game because they see yasuo all the time and would like a change.

A champion being played isn't a reason to nerf him unjustly.

one of these groups has to tough it out.

I don't like teemo's shrooms, the fact that he can just build magic pen and plant as many as he wants, but are they nerfing him? no. Why? because that's who Teemo is. Why do us Yasuo mains have to suffer because people " don't like playing against him".

how about a compromise: all the real yasuo mains get to continue playing him, all the abusers who can't handle having tons of options and rely on raw stat power, can just fail and go play garen?

both of us win. but yasuo has to get a nerf to make this happen.

Yasuo was nerfed on release, Yasuo has been nerfed over and over. He has never received any buff. At best he has had bugs fixed, at best. I didn't see Riot's bch ass running to buff Yasuo season 4 when he had the lowest win rate in the game. He was literally being banned from ranked games because people were always feeding with him because he was bad. Where was the justice then.

Where was Riot's bch ass when they nerfed static shiv over and over and over, till Yasuo would be stupid to build it. Where was Riots bch ass when they nerfed Infinity Edge to the point it where it was useless. They nerfed every core item he builds, after years of nerfing him.

Where was Riot's bch ass when he was the considered the worst and had the worst record mid lane among everyone. Where was Riots bch ass when he was being stunned to death because they removed zephyr, nerfed cleanse, nerfed ss, and he can't escape anything in a game of click and point champions of which 90% have a form of cc.

where was Riot's buffs season 5 when he couldn't even kill adc's because of their oppressive rework. When he couldn't go up against juggernauts because they were oppressively op and still are.

Where oh where has Riot been hiding? Now Yasuo may have a high win rate, but he is nowhere as cancerous as champions such as vayne. Oh wait op vayne just got herself a buff, and so did riven, and veigar, and jinx. Meanwhile their broken stupid. Where are the morde nerfs?

Plan and simple, people love Yasuo. Yasuo is a Samurai, and that's huge and popular. The only people complaining about him are bronze tier players who are clueless about countering him, Yasuo the easiest champion ever to counter. He is played a lot because he is cool. But Aside from being popular, is anything broken about him? No. No it's not.

People feeding him early game then having him rekt them isn't him being op, it's them sucking. Yasuo wasn't buffed or changed so how is he all of the sudden strong? They changed the items and fucked it up. So does he have to pay for it? No he shouldn't

Why should I have my Main changed because people found a stronger way to play him after Riot fucked up? Should I be inclined to give one fuck that they fucked up? No fuck tem.

your reply?

So in short, my reply, Fuck Riot, the nerfs are unjust.

AptestAug 31, 20161 votes

A champion being played...

There's a big wall of text you wrote there and I feel it is all a red herring. Here is the problem as I see it: too much Yasuo in ladder right now. If you disagree, obviously you'll reject any nerfs.

as for "oppressive experience" and "anti fun". I remember the outcry from you yasuo mains over mid lane lulu. from my perspective: you did not enjoy playing mid and top VS lulu you yasuo mains cried from the top of your lungs. lulu got nerfed to the ground. you say "why do we have to suffer" ? you have no right to that arguemnt. you lost your rights, when you cried for lulu.

NilokAug 31, 20162 votes

At first I thought this was a sarcasm thread as it plays into the worst aspects of how Yasuo players are perceived. However, upon seeing that you almost exclusively play Yasuo, I became quite disappointed.

This is not how you deal with something you dislike. You need to argue your points with logic and level headedness if you want to your ideas to be considered by Riot. You should not be acting like a 3 year old having a temper tantrum using words you are apparently too young for.

I get it, you are an "entertainer", and entertainers verbally attack others when the are put in a stressful situation, but all this will do is galvanizing Riot to keep going down their path.

BultzAug 31, 20161 votes

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At first I thought this was a sarcasm thread as it plays into the worst aspects of how Yasuo players are perceived. However, upon seeing that you almost exclusively play Yasuo, I became quite disappointed.

This is not how you deal with something you dislike. You need to argue your points with logic and level headedness if you want to your ideas to be considered by Riot. You should not be acting like a 3 year old having a temper tantrum using words you are apparently too young for.

Listen you judgemental asshole, I don't give a shit anymore. Riot has fucked us Yasuo players for years and for years I have been level headed, had been giving reasons and actual facts and trying to actually help my champion. And for years riot has done shit to help.

When Yasuo had the lowest win rate out of every champion in season 4 and he was being literally being banned for sucking too much, where was riot to respond with buffs?Yasuo was nerfed on release and has been nerfed over and over. He has never received any buff worth a word. At best he has had bugs fixed, at best.

where was Riot's buffs season 5 when he couldn't even kill adc's because of their oppressive rework. When he couldn't go up against juggernauts because they were oppressively op and still are.

Now he is being nerfed because they fked over his core build so he changed his build. Why should he be nerfed because they broke the items? Nah Fk being level headed.

I get it, you are an "entertainer", and entertainers verbally attack others when the are put in a stressful situation, but all this will do is galvanizing Riot to keep going down their path.

Riot has only helped the fking whiners in this game. Yasuo hasn't been buffed or anything special, so why is he being nerfed? because they broken builds and now he has to pay. Fk that. We Yasuo mains didn't get any help before, why should we be cool now

NilokSep 1, 20161 votes

Just because Yasuo may have been considered weak in the past doesn't mean he is weak now. League of Legends has changed massively since season 3, and yes, Yasuo has gotten a number of buffs between then and now, but mostly bug fixes that made him stronger (like Azir).

Currently Yasuo has the 2nd highest win rate top (55.01%) and is rated the best top pick, and the 6th highest win rate mid (53.1%) and is rated third best mid pick. Yasuo is simply too strong in League of Legends, and we can't make other champions as strong as him as that would just feed the power creep cycle more.

http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Top http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Middle

The reason you are getting massively down voted is because this is a narrative that only exists for yourself, and people don't buy it, they have too much experience to say the contrary. The Riot that is nerfing Yasuo who is already weak doesn't exist.

BultzSep 1, 20161 votes

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Just because Yasuo may have been considered weak in the past doesn't mean he is weak now. League of Legends has changed massively since season 3, and yes, Yasuo has gotten a number of buffs between then and now, but mostly bug fixes that made him stronger (like Azir).

Currently Yasuo has the 2nd highest win rate top (55.01%) and is rated the best top pick, and the 6th highest win rate mid (53.1%) and is rated third best mid pick. Yasuo is simply too strong in League of Legends, and we can't make other champions as strong as him as that would just feed the power creep cycle more.

http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Top http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Middle

The reason you are getting massively down voted is because this is a narrative that only exists for yourself, and people don't buy it, they have too much experience to say the contrary. The Riot that is nerfing Yasuo who is already weak doesn't exist.

Yasuo has a high win rate, because most people suck at this game. He is better, but in no way worth nerfing. Name the buffs, and i don't mean bug fixes cause those are not buffs. No he hasn't been buffed. Changed and debugged that is all.

As far as him being number 2 and 6, ummmmmmmmmmmm if he isn't even number one, why nerf him? Nerf number one wtf are you even saying. And being number 6 is somehow nerf worthy? That's not even bronze medal level.

As for him being stronger than other champion, you're kidding right? He is crushed by so many champions and so many champions do higher damage, have better kits, and overall are stronger. Dufuq u mean? Where are the annie nerfs for when she one hits you with tibber? Where are the rengar nerfs? I've seen more than 1 rengar main go into a 5v1 fight and come out with a penta. Try that with a Yasuo, I dare you. Unfed, equal level, go fight 5 people as Yasuo and tell me how you do.

As far as massive downvotes, bruh, I just told the creators of the biggest video game in the world to fuck themselves. With a fan base of literally millions, I received 26 downvotes. 26/1,000,000 not really equaling massive downvotes. On top of that this has been upvoted. The only ones who have said Yasuo is strong are unranked or bronze-silver players. Anyone Gold or high only comments on how Yasuo is easy to counter, because they don't suck. Your "experienced players" are nothing more than whiny bchs who can't out play him because they don't have the skill too.

NilokSep 2, 20161 votes

All data from Champion.gg and other similar sources use Platinum+ Ranked matches (Platinum - Challenger), people much more experienced with the game than most of us.

Yasuo is, once again, the highest rated Top pick in League of Legends. From the previous patch, Yasuo shot up 19 ranks for Mid as well. Compounded on that Yasuo is the third highest played champion among all Top picks, 11.11% (rocking that abnormally high 55% win rate), while also holding the 3rd and 4th top bans for the game (#1 among all Top picks), right behind Zed and Hecarim.

In total, Yasuo has had 9 beneficial bug fixes (like what happened with Azir when they fixed the bugs that were holding him back), and 3 buffs, not including new items and masteries that he synergies with, such as new Phantom Dancer, new Trinity Force, and Sterak's Gage. Complete list will be provided at the end of my post.

Here's the thing, a sizeable Ranked majority on the boards lambasted Riot for dynamic queue, which included telling them to "go fuck themselves." However, this posts got massive upvotes that at times went up into the hundreds. Hell, even on the old boards, when Riot made a bad change, they got several hundred downvotes, so many it caused their system to start deleting Riot posts because they were so disliked (part of the reason for the new boards). It isn't that you are telling Riot to "go fuck themselves," it's that the community had found that your core argument is wrong. If you had argued from a point of logos, logic, on why the changes were bad instead of throwing a temper tantrum, you may have actually been received better instead of setting yourself up as a pariah.

Listen, I get it, you made a very public stand against Riot due to these changes due to emotional outrage, and now that you have invested so much into it, you don't feel you can back down from your stance. The stronger man isn't the one who will carry on no matter what while being full of pride, the stronger man is the one who can admit is was wrong in the face of evidence and be able to show humility.

Yasuo change log comprising all beneficial changes, bug fixes and buffs, not including game wide changes.

V6.17 Last Breath Bug Fix: Fixed a bug where Yasuo's first basic attack after Last Breath was delayed if it was a critical strike. V6.14 General Bug Fix: Fixed a bug where Yasuo could be locked out of his basic attack after casting Sweeping Blade or Last Breath. Steel Tempest Bug Fix: Fixed a bug where Steel Tempest wasn't always critically striking when Yasuo had 100% crit chance. Wind Wall Bug Fix: No longer fails to block projectiles in the instant it was cast, if cast at the same time Yasuo died. V6.2 Wind Wall Bug Fix: Now properly continues to blocking projectiles if Yasuo Yasuo dies. V6.1 Wind Wall Fixed a bug where certain targeted abilities (such as Twisted Fate Twisted Fate's Pick A Card) would pass through Wind Wall as it spawned. V5.14 Steel Tempest Fixed a bug where the third cast wasn't applying on-hit effect V5.8 Way of the Wanderer [Buff] Flow capacity increased to 「 100 – 510 」 from 「 60 – 470 」. Flow generation reduced at early ranks to per 59 / 52 / 46 units travelled from 46 at all levels. V4.21 Stats [Adjustment] Movement speed increased to 345 from 340. Steel Tempest [Buff] Cooldown reduced to 4 seconds from 5 / 4.75 / 4.5 / 4.25 / 4 seconds at all ranks. V4.1 Last Breath [Buff] Now grants maximum Flow on cast. Spell animation shortened by 0.1 seconds. Now less likely to follow target's using Flash. Bug fix: The cooldown is now appropriate tracked for the purposes of spectator mode and the interface.

Miku AppendAug 31, 20162 votes

Yasuo mains are the children of Season 3 Riven mains.

RandomoniumAug 30, 20161 votes

+1 for effort

Wild Wild SmithSep 2, 20161 votes

Oh look. A toxic yasuo main, I'd make a joke about it, buuuut Yasuo mains are the punchline.

Shadowfang TC Sep 20, 20161 votes

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Oh look. A toxic yasuo main, I'd make a joke about it, buuuut Yasuo mains are the punchline.

This thread is literally the only example of a "toxic" Yasuo I have ever seen. Most Yasuo players are calm and helpful.

Shadowfang TC Sep 20, 20161 votes

As a Yasuo main, I rather hated the nurf to begin with; but I do realize it was targeted at a specific build. Honestly, the tank build was broken on everyone who ever tried it, and the fact that they nurfed him AND the item made me question the balance team. But post nurf he actually seems to be in a better place than he was pre nurf, at least for me. I don't have to see him banned 99.9% of the time, and the attack speed buff is quite helpful for the mid lane.

TL;DR The nurf was targeted, and now he is healthier.

PS. I NEVER used that tank build anyways, it was demeaning.