Tell me how to play against Syndra

strut··7 votes·3,536 views

I was Vladimir against Syndra in mid today. It didn't go well. I could use some help.

Just tell me what to do against her. She can push in the lane extremely fast with her abilities and can already use them again to poke. I cannot trade with her not even with my 3rd q. By the time i get up to her she has dropped 2 abilities on my head already. Her "skillshots" are so fast she can just drop a q on my head and i wont be able to dodge in any way. Of course there is Sanguine Pool to evade combos yes. I did that many times but it has a 28 second cooldown. She can absolutely try again with success in that time.

I have built mr and still she could all in on me easily. Until later in the game. But that didn't really matter. She already killed everyone else up to that point already.

I see no counterplay to her other than calling ganks and trying not to die. Help me out with this please.

I play Synda sometimes as well (not in ranked) and i have never felt vulnerable or being in a fair lane unless it was some really obnoxious assassin i was up against. Sure i got ganked but that usually ended up a 1 for 1 too.

EDIT.: Thanks for all the advice guys!

24 Comments

MunchCrunchLunch5 votes

wait for the assassin rework. she destroys anything that isn't an assassin.

Shadòw4 votes

keep your w up until she ults you. her ult is her main damage, she almost can't kill you without it. DON'T get into her Range when you have W on CD and she still has Ult.

use your q effectively and poke her when she gats near you.

even when you lose the trade in terms of raw DMG, you are going to let her run out of mana and outsustain her.

don't go for hard trades/all ins 1v1 when you are at same HP. her Q isn't faster as any other ability that works the same, it is dodgeable.

also, asking for ganks always helps vs Syndra.

Chimp Joker2 votes

Following up from this, one of the main things you want to do is wait for Syndra to use her E. She will try to stun you with it, but if she misses, her survivability drops giving you an opening to fight back. Mainly it's a bit of a war of attrition early game, but it's an effective strategy.

*Syndra Main

strut1 votes

Problem is i can't keep my w up until she ults me if i want to have a chance of not being down heavily in farm. She can easily punish me for imply getting cs. I can't really trade through a wave that's pushing into me. Also staying out of range until i have w is just insane cs loss. Really much cs loss.

Kitty Whiskers2 votes

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Problem is i can't keep my w up until she ults me if i want to have a chance of not being down heavily in farm. She can easily punish me for imply getting cs. I can't really trade through a wave that's pushing into me. Also staying out of range until i have w is just insane cs loss. Really much cs loss.

Actually good vlads dont use w unless they get ganked or syndra ult's. Its not a tool to be used to just dodge poke. it can be but thats the result of it. You're punished for it. Next time focus on dodging her thing's as you farm and if you get poked its not so big considering you heal up anyway. I think vlad is a immense syndra counter.

Shadòw2 votes

you can use your charged up Q and punish her too.

you have sustain, so if she can kill you without ult, you're doing something wrong.

BakedLotion2 votes

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keep your w up until she ults you. her ult is her main damage, she almost can't kill you without it. DON'T get into her Range when you have W on CD and she still has Ult.

use your q effectively and poke her when she gats near you.

even when you lose the trade in terms of raw DMG, you are going to let her run out of mana and outsustain her.

don't go for hard trades/all ins 1v1 when you are at same HP. her Q isn't faster as any other ability that works the same, it is dodgeable.

also, asking for ganks always helps vs Syndra.

syndra getting near u LUL

Jax Cramer3 votes

Dodge or surrender at 20.

If you failed or forget to dodge for some reason and you don't wanna waste 20 mins of what will be a loss eventually anyway you can also speed up the process by intetionally feeding Syndra so your team opens mid.

Kitty Whiskers3 votes

Syndra at the moment is press r for free kill lvl6+. R+ignite+ thunderlords+one ability or another maybe a auto is enough to 100-0 you. Due to being buffed to put in the meta by riot. She'll be nerfed soon otherwise just rush item 3155 item 3111 item 3140 item 3211 item 1057 depending on the midlaner and she shouldnt be able to 100-0 you.

SwiftKitten883 votes

Vladimir pool the instant she ultis you and you will never die... it will 100% negate her utlimate, which is most of her damage if she sets it up properly

Kaioko3 votes

To counter syndra you either ourange her or you out maneuver her. Vladimir can do neither of those things since he possesses short range spells and no mobility. My suggestion is play someone else but if you're really intended on playing vlad against a syndra, save your pool to dodge the ult and get spirit visage as your first item.

Tyrone Lannister1 votes

Play zed. He destroys her in lane. Also your ult cancels hers

SwaggyMcGhee4201 votes

Build MR. Play agressive early and outsustain her if you're vlad. Syndra kind of sucks if she builds anything except full glass cannon, so you can counterbuild and abuse her in lane. She's also vurnerable without her e, which has a 15+ second cooldown, so use that cooldown to your advantage as well.

Noblewind1 votes

Trade when her E is down/pool when she's using ult/ move actively, you can dodge a lot of Q's this way, don't sit back too far otherwise it's obvious where you're going to walk next if you poke-farm

Frius1 votes

syndra is current cancer ,vlad was past cancer

Yooba1 votes

Don't eat her balls

GULAG 4 U1 votes

at least this post isn't just crying and "sndrr es opie nerferino" lol.

strut1 votes

That doesn't make me play better

GULAG 4 U1 votes

Yeah, that's a good action of your part instead of my buddy know as "Munchcrunchlunch" with

"The only counterplay to Yasuo is to afk undertower and hope other lanes win"

"Jax gets shit on by mordekaiser"

"Mordekaiser es impossible to play against"

"Leaving your lane is counterplay to jayce"

Lovelle1 votes

If she's being played well, you need to fight fire with fire. You need a champion with just as many tools or an "unfair mechanic" that lets them avoid/mess up her rotation. If played optimally, you can't pick a simpler champion into her and expect to do well. She's specifically designed to counter that approach. You want hard CC that can be applied from a "generally" safe range and easy waveclear abilities. That way, even if you're not doing well, you can assist a gank much easier, possibly turning the game in your favor.

Chamsae1 votes

Think of Syndra's balls as a obstacle, stay a fair distance away from them. If you think she's planning to all-in you, juke out or dodge the stun and simply start shitting your abilities on her. Build and stack MR. Problem solved.

Stray Kat1 votes

Just a question, but last I knew Syndra's ult got reset if it didn't actually hit you, but only started the animation.. Has this been changed? Because I know in the past I'd used hourglass and still gotten ulted again afterwards. This would've been seasons ago at best, but yeah. If not, Vlad's W isn't gonna save him much anyway(Unless he uses it after 1-Ball hits.

Divewing1 votes

last i knew you were correct. what I'd do is just wait for the first ball to hit then zhonyas, vlad w, trollpole, what have you

Lao Fu the Tiger1 votes

You should pink ward her spheres and flash to juke her ult.

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