Tell me for i do not know.
Incredibly oppressive. Has a point and click poke ability with high damage on 4 second cooldown. Can stun into e into spear if you try to trade with him. can harass you away from cs. Can harass you under your own tower. Can deny cs under your own tower. Gets 1 kill and can bully you out of lane.
U farm u dont win lane against him
Don't die before level 9. Win in late game.
Yes, you will have to give up CS. A lot of CS. Yes, I know, it's annoying. But what do you prefer? Being 30 CS behind; or dying 3 times, being 30 CS behind anyway, and let Panth ult Mid/Bot and snowball the whole game?
The thing is, if you don't die, Panth will be useless, even more useless than you with -30 CS.
I copy/pasted this from an older post I made, give it a read.
Pantheon, league's resident spartan and general spear & shield wielding bad ass, is in my opinion one of the more confusing champions to face against(especially in lower elo) and also to manage. We have all heard: "Pantheon falls off" which doesn't exactly mean what you probably think what it does.
I'm here to explain the in and out of Pantheon, and you will probably not understand this all at once, so take your time. There is a conclusion at the bottom if you want the quick and dirty.
Who is Pantheon? Pantheon is a Toplaner(Occasionally jungler) champion who not only is very abusive in the early games, but generates a ton of pressure all around him just from his intimidating muscles. He throws spears, he blocks autos, He leap-stuns, he leaps across the damn map, and he gets free execute crits! Pantheon is kinda a jack of all trades, Map pressure, Lane bully, Stun, poke, semi tanky, good engage and zoning. He sounds pretty strong, but in fact he is a lot easier to deal with than you think!
How does he work? To understand how to beat Pantheon, we must understand how he works and what combo's and styles he will use to murder you, although hopefully you learn and counter that.
Pantheon's passive is surprisingly strong early, it blocks auto attacks and can be proced multiple times in a fight. Every spell/AA grants him a stack, at 4 stacks he gets a shield, shield blocks AA. Leap-stun W automatically readies a shield. His Q, or "omg-stop-spamming-spears-on-me" is kinda his signature bully skill, point and click damage at a flat and semi low cost, it can crit with his E passive. W Is a good engaging tool, but he trades off a lot of defensive power(Think Irelia E) when he uses it to engage, when he probably has his passive up already, wasting an auto attack block. E gives him free crits attacking enemies below 15% health. You can actually see your health by pinging it and it gives you a percentage... Plan accordingly. His ult, the iconic man drop can be extremely powerful and devastating, but it takes time, like Nunu's ult. Fun fact: Pantheons ult can be used to dodge Karthus R, as it has a 2 second channel then 1.5 seconds of Fizz troll poll invincibility, Karthus R has a 3 second cast time.
What should I look out for in lane?
WATCH HIS MANA Pantheon is a bully, no doubt, he spams Q's until he can all in and kill you. Q costs 45 Mana, W costs 55 mana, E costs 45+5 per lvl, R costs 100. His mana pool is 317.12 (+ 31) - 844 at lvl 18. I expect you to be in lane no longer than level 11, so his mana pool is ~630 at that point, but early it's really bad. His full combo early of QWE is 145 mana, If he doesn't have that much, then he probably can't kill you as long as you respect his E damage, which hurts a lot.
TRY AND FORCE HIM TO POKE EARLY His Lvl 1 Q damage is PATHETIC, 65(+140% bonus AD, which is like, 20 damage) but the cost is the same, 45 Mana, making yourself look juicy and throw those lvl 1 spears is a win. they scale base by 40 dmg per lvl which is pretty significant because the mana cost does not scale. A good Pantheon will wait till lvl 3 and have Q(2) and W(1) before poking.
CARE FOR GANKS This is kinda just general knowledge, but even more so for Pantheon because in his kit he has the ultimate skill that make junglers drool, his W. Point and click stun, 100% reliable CC, which by the way has the same range as his Q, so if he can poke, he can stun.
HIS PASSIVE MAKES TOWER DIVING EASY If you are taking to much damage from poke, just back or consider investing in a corrupting(if you have not already). He can easily just run under tower and smash you and block 2-3 turret shots assuming he does not start with W for an engage. If you can pop it before tower get's blocked, thats better for you.
ALWAYS PING MIA Pantheon's ult can easily net him a few kills. If he is not in lane, even if he backed, Ping the hell out of it. Usually takes about 10 seconds to travel mid from top and about 15 to get from base to botlane. Don't let him surprise your teammates. ALSO, If you are shoving his tower and he is MIA, there is also a good chance he is just going to jump on you, if he ults farther back, just walk past tower, don't try to run back.
So, how does he "fall off?" Pantheons effectiveness falls off late game because his passive is less useful, his Ult takes a mind numbing 3.5 seconds, and his short range lane bully skills are hardly useful in stand offs. PLUS to do damage, he has to jump in, and he doesn't really pull off the bruiser like Kled all that well, meaning he is squishy and pretty easy to peel because he only has ONE gapcloser that is effective in team fight situations. His zoning however, is as good as ever. His ult is massive and threatening, making objectives a lot more dangerous to contest because he will just man drop the pit and really bring the pain. Often in the late game it's about making picks or quick engages murder the backline, siege, etc. Pantheon really doesn't do these all that well considering his ult has a massive wind up, his W for catches works, but is less effective in team situations. He will still hurt, so don't go fighting him 1v1 cause you assumed him weak.
Other miscellaneous tips He lacks the power spike most other top laners do when they hit 6, However he has a good chance to just stun you and run away laughing, don't be reckless in trying to abuse your spike, Pantheon doesn't care half the time. Starting Doran's shield is actually not bad considering it heals from his Q W and AA, Corrupting and cloth are both viable as well. Forcing trades early with him and then backing/TP often puts him in a bad spot in which you can control the lane better if he doesn't follow suit. This is pretty common, but it's really effective. His wave clear is kinda crappy, E costs a lot mana and he maxes it second, so someone with some solid wave clear can force CS off him. Shields are the name of the game, His Q is every 4 seconds(to 3.2 when he gets BC) and blocking his damage is the best way to burn his mana and keep yourself healthy. Buying pots helps too, Corrupting is a worthy buy. If your jungler is ganking, tell him to not gank from behind, Pantheon will just W him and run away laughing. Don't take damage like a bitch, If you can hit back, do so. Half the game is just telling him he is not free to do as he pleases, however early AA don't really help due to his passive. His passive blocks all associated CC with the AA, Naut, Darius W, Blitz E, etc...
Good match-ups Darius, Olaf, Shen. All for different reasons if you cant figure that out.
I'm Pantheon 51k and the champions that give me the most trouble are Teemo & Malphite maxing Q first. Riven also does okay versus Pantheon because she can shield my Qs.
1 Pick champs that can out sustain him if you get the counter pick.
2 Don't pick champs that are easily bullied if you have first pick.
3 Take early armor, even if you pick a carry.
4 Give up cs if you have to, and back at like 40-50% hp. It's better than him getting the same amount of CS that he would have AND a 300g kill on you.
5 Don't friggin die.
6 Wait/ask for ganks, since he's very vulnerable to them unless fed.
7 Wait for level 10 or so, where he's now useless.
8 If all else fails, and he gets a few kills on you. Roam. Leave the lane, let him have it and just go murder bot and get their turret instead. You will be much more useful to your team this way.
He's a lane bully, and that's it. He's good at 1v1ing but he has very clear weaknesses and counterplay which specifically includes "don't let him snowball". Keep eyes on him when his ult is up / warn your team, especially if anyones low. Don't let him get picks either.
And when he's low mana or oom, he's useless... Use this time to farm or trade/zone/kill.
you don't, you cry in a corner and then scale while he falls off and then he goes to cry in a corner, it's quite a vicious cycle really.
Hope he isn't one of those guys that take clarity and wait for him to go oom.
Pantheon's passive doesn't block spells, use an anti-melee mage like Swain and lane is easy. Pantheon is really short range too so that helps. I know toplane you wanna play tanks or bruisers but you either adapt to the fact you have a weak early or bite the bullet and counterpick pantheon so his super strong early isn't relevant that match.
For real, I took her toplane into a Panth and we stalemated before just switching to an unspoken agreement to farm near each other without trying any shit. She has enough CC and natural durability to shrug off his all-ins, and outside of his initial burst, without building damage he won't be able to kill her. You just have to make sure not to use Q while his block is active.
yell at jungler for help
you just don't win that lane, especially if he brings ignite. your best hope is to outscale with a tank. mundo springs to mind, you can farm fairly well with mundo with just cleavers, and if pantheon decides to bodyblock cleavers to force you from farm, then he'll take damage.
Renekton, Vlad, Gangplank
yeah dude!! bronzies unite!!! i dont want to wait till 30 minutes for my game to be a free win against pantheon (inless jg and bot is trolling, i swear if i had teams that tried i would be plat). i want panthoen to do no dmg and have 3 min cd on r so i can ez control him and win lane because if i cant my team trolls!!! also i hate building armor, armor is boring! but when i try to play my full ad teemo (my main) i cant win lane because he keeps blocking my dmgs!!!!11!!!1!! he goes full damages and i cant?!?! wtf rito??!!11!!/!?! eveery time i see panteon i report playre because i have no respect for patneon mains. every upvote me teemo main so riot will nerf pantheon (or remoeve) and buff teemo so i can get past riot broken matchmaking and get to my deserve rank!!111!! =]]]
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs] <<<<-------- stupid champ
good champ
It all depends on who you are playing as.
If you are another lane bully you have a good chance of beating him up through out-poke or all-in.
If you are a more farm-focused champ then your main objective is to not lose a lot of health. Use whatever ranged moves you have to farm.
Aside from that advice it's going to be pretty much matchup based.
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When he Qs you he is in range to pull.
pantheons level 1 isnt all too amazing. like he does damage but until he gets his E it isnt anything too amazing. so may i bring up a cheese strat
take fervor or grasp (for this cheese grasp is preferable. but i like fervor on darius too much) start corrupting. sit in the bush closest to hit fountain. when he walks into lane fucking fight him. start w AA. AA. do not w until he starts to walk away from you. then AA more. get 5 stacks he will flash. flash onto him for one more AA ignite. he is now dead. probably.
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