of his innate base stats without true grit.
there i said it.
even without preemptively stacking stacks before a fight or even during. you're not going to beat him in a trade unless its a 2v1 scenario.
he is the absolute pinnacle of top tier. please tone him down. make him squishier /comboable when he doesn't have his stacks, afterall hes building total ADC and winning trades, not extended ones, but reactionary ones.
Ralanr1 votesHis base stats were increased to compensate for his range loss, making him more of a bruiser marksman.
Given how he can clear without losing much health because of the knockback, I think his base defenses could take a hit.
Grift981 voteshis e is losing the mr next patch so mages rejoice
Restless Slumber1 votesWhat they need to do to change Graves is make it so that his true grit duration scales with levels in his e. If they do this, then his first clear gets worse, and that way he is less rewarding to people with unoptimized clears. The actual problem with him is the fact that you can be compensated on him for being a bad jungle player by his lack of skill to clear, which makes power farming on him way too effective. Compare him to a champion like Nidalee, and you see a clear discrepancy in champion knowledge to clear, even when his kit is deep. So what I'm saying is that he has both a low skill floor and a high skill cap, which makes him abusable by good Graves players, and easy to pick up by noobs.
