Should Karma have a real passive?

darkdill·Apr 5, 2015·6 votes·922 views

Karma's Gathering Fire is just something that could easily be appended to her ultimate's description. In essence, it leaves Karma with no real passive.

To that end, how about she get a new one, while moving the current one into her ultimate? Here's a suggestion:

Karma gathers stacks when moving and casting spells. At 100 stacks, her next basic attack deals bonus magic damage.

Basically a cross between Statikk Shiv and Luden's Echo, but without any AOE capability. It would improve her harass and give her an extra source of damage that involves her taking a risk.

Good idea or bad idea?

EDIT: Got another one that could work.

Karma gathers stacks when moving, casting spells, and attacking. At 100 stacks, her next basic attack restores mana.

12 Comments

thinking manApr 5, 20154 votes

She doesn't need buffs.

Especially not to lane poke.

Kitten of EvilApr 5, 20152 votes

Give her back her old passive! A buttload of AP when she's at low health. The baits were real.

straight4freeApr 5, 20152 votes

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Give her back her old passive! A buttload of AP when she's at low health. The baits were real.

And if you looked at her entire character, there was this beautiful depth to it. If you hurt Karma, Karma bit back harder.

RIP Karma and her fans 2013

Kitten of EvilApr 5, 20152 votes

You know what they say, Karma's a ... I mean "Karma always catches up to you."

ModAcademy KaynApr 5, 20152 votes

Zyra Jayce At least Karma has a useful passive.

jmonster129Apr 30, 20151 votes

i wish they would do this, not as a buff but just to give her more of a clearer play style, take power out of Q/RQ since its so heavy in her kit, and give her this passive

7thHeavenApr 30, 20151 votes

Karma, Who?

DanofDemaciaApr 30, 20151 votes

I fuckng love mid karma its one of my favorite things right now and since she only has 2 damaging moves she just feels a little lackluster. A new passive could be exactly what she needs

AnritaJun 7, 20151 votes

I like Karma, both old a new, but I agree that it feels like she should have a real passive, as opposed to just splitting her ult into 2 abilities. I don't think she needs more power, though, so I wouldn't go for the bonus magic damage suggestion. I'm thinking something with the quiet meditation theme, as nothing in her kit currently gives that feeling, even though her character concept / lore really do.

For example, maybe if none of her spells are on cooldown and she's not moving or attacking, she gets bonus mana regen that slowly builds over time. That wouldn't give her any extra power while engaging, but could be help her sustain as a support while giving the opposing team an extra incentive to harass. Or, instead of mana regen, maybe stealth detection that gradually increased in radius. But, something to reward moments of calm, as right now she seems to be all about rushing around frantically spamming abilities and attacks... something to add a yin to complement her current yang, and bring balance to her gameplay, so to speak.

darkdillJun 7, 20151 votes

Or maybe, instead of dealing damage, it could be the passive I suggested, but it restores mana instead.

HupsisJun 7, 20151 votes

Nope. Her passive is exremely powerful/useful.

And even if she were given a "proper" passive I wouldn't want it to be copy of Luden's Echo or Statikk Shiv. Those items are seriously so freaking boring.