Why does Spellthief's Edge not proc on Shaco's boxes?

Illâoi Evê Siôn··8 votes·811 views

I thought 'diversity' and 'clarity through consistency' were two of Riot's main design philosophies.
Then why are you inhibiting a 'Dark Horse' Support like Shaco by inconsistently letting abilities interact with Spellthief's Edge?

13 Comments

Slamurai Jack3 votes

To discourage you from playing AP Shaco support.

Shac Norris1 votes

It's too late...

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

Way too late :D AP Shaco players arise!

dangopee2 votes

I upvoted you but you are probably getting downvoted because everyone hates shaco and is salty.

EDIT:

Okay I just read on the Wiki that Jack in the Box specifically does not apply spell effects. So that is why. It doesn't apply any spell effects such as spellvamp or rylais slow or spelltheifs.

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

They do apply Rylai's, though. I hope Riot changes them to apply Spellthief's, too.

dangopee1 votes

Then that is a bug or the wiki is wrong. I've never seen a shaco with rylais so I haven't seen it myself.

EDIT:

Okay I read some more and rylais is a special case and applies the slow as a "summoned minion" but it appears that is the only spell effect in the game that gets applied.

Illâoi Evê Siôn3 votes

Zyra's plants are classified the same as Shaco's traps and yet they apply different effects. If Zyra's plants get to proc Tribute (Spellthief's passive) then Shaco's boxes should be able to, too.
Edit: Apparently Zyra's plants are minions and Shaco's boxes pets.

Stonington1 votes

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Zyra's plants are classified the same as Shaco's traps and yet they apply different effects. If Zyra's plants get to proc Tribute (Spellthief's passive) then Shaco's boxes should be able to, too.

No, they aren't classified the same way and no Shaco boxes don't apply Rylai's or Liandry's. They should though, it would be pretty ace.

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

I've personal experience that they do apply Rylai's and it say here that they do, too (under Jack in the Boxes, additional information). And Zyra's plants are classified as minions, while Shaco's boxes are classified as pets. So you were right about that. But that only supports the inconsistency aspect I was criticizing.

Shac Norris1 votes

It procs Rylais and spellvamp.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Did they say somewhere that it's intended? Otherwise, more likely it's just a bug...

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

I know. You replied to my bug thread. However, that got downvoted. Anything with 0 or less votes is invisible. Also due to lack of interaction with the 'report a bug' boards, I do not trust Riot to put any resources into fixing the bug of a dark horse champion in the near future. Threads in the more popular boards get more recognition. Popular bugs are sometimes even fixed immediately due to exposure. By being critical you usually get more recognition, so I thought I'd make another thread here with that in mind. It can't hurt. And I'd really like this to get fixed by next patch's time, because I can't play and then abandon Support Shaco if it isn't, and I can't play League seriously if I'm constantly flailing as Support Shaco, and I really want to play Support Shaco D:

Shac Norris1 votes

That's just because anything Shaco buff related gets downvoted to shit

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