Problem: the thesis cannot be tested if the other 4 players go out of their way to intentionally lose the normal game "because you're trolling".
(You can win bot games 1v5 as AP Garen, so please don't bother bringing them up)
Ideas for a solution?
Buff Jax please5 votesSo you wanna troll a game and complain that people troll you in return? Logic.
Paroe8 votes[{quoted}](name=Buff Jax please,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wGqnQqJ4,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-08-28T16:22:45.708+0000)
So you wanna troll a game and complain that people troll you in return? Logic.
If youre earnestly trying to win, youre not trolling they are.
are all champions with viable AP/AD builds depending on where they play.
Davarril2 votesIf you're earnestly trying to win, you don't pick Ahri ADC.
Disulfiram2 votesWhy not? There are strong arguments for it working (2 sec hard CC -which on an adc is very powerful-, 3 dashes, movespeed bonus, strong mixed damage early/mid game), and the main reason we don't know if it actually works is that nobody will allow her to be picked as adc.
RogueWill1 votesWhy not? There are strong arguments for it working (2 sec hard CC -which on an adc is very powerful-, 3 dashes, movespeed bonus, strong mixed damage early/mid game), and the main reason we don't know if it actually works is that nobody will allow her to be picked as adc.
CC on an adc is not necesarly good. Take 
for example, hardly ever used as adc even thogh his freaking blind is really good
Davarril1 votesIf you want to troll pick Ahri ADC and piss your team off, be my guest.
YCitizenSnipsY2 votesThere is an EU player in diamond 2 or three that mains ADC Ahri. He has posted two or three videos to Reddit.
Davarril1 votesGood for him, I wonder how many games his team is tilted before the game even starts due to his idiotic pick.
YCitizenSnipsY2 votesApparently not that many if he can climb that far up the ladder with that pick.
Arcus Diabolus1 votesIf youre earnestly trying to win, youre not trolling they are.
and 
are all crying in a corner somewhere.
Disulfiram2 votesSorry but I'm missing your point here... so what? Just because some champions don't have a viable AP or AD build, it means that others can't have both?
Ezreal is a very good example for this actually, since he has both a powerful AP build and multiple strong AD builds.
Arcus Diabolus1 votesSorry but I'm missing your point here... so what? Just because some champions don't have a viable AP or AD build, it means that others can't have both?
Ezreal is a very good example for this actually, since he has both a powerful AP build and multiple strong AD builds.
Was a joke, my dear Watson. There was no point.
R FLASH XD1 votesIf youre earnestly trying to win, youre not trolling they are.
I actually played AD Akali once on another account and it wasn't too bad.
Paroe1 votes[{quoted}](name=Horny Flamingo,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wGqnQqJ4,comment-id=000300000002,timestamp=2016-08-29T22:35:19.640+0000)
I actually played AD Akali once on another account and it wasn't too bad.
its really not. and with the current AD itemization, its really strong too. You do need some AP though. a hextechGLP or protobelt is usually enough.
archerno14 votesPlay ranked. That way they will have to adapt
inplane4 votesI've seen someone actually try ADC Ahri before and it wasn't that bad. It was before the Q movespeed bonus too.
All these sweet summer children saying it's trolling do not know of it's power. That or they do not know the meaning of a game.
Pika Fox4 votesADC Ahri works. She has mobility, CC, sustain and poke, as well as a decent auto attack animation. She just has no AS steroids or kit centric AD scaling, focusing more on her ult dash and charm to stay safe while putting out her DPS.
Its definitely viable, just not really as good due to lack of AS scaling for taking objectives quickly.
AD lux is also fun, although not nearly as viable anymore due to W nerfs.
Ryuyah2 votessolution: play blind pick where nobody gives a shit
Masala Chai2 votestoo bad people actually do...
SpookyNeedle2 votesJust played as Warring Kingdoms comp, 
top, 
jungle, 
mid, AP 
support, AP 
APC (me)
Our botlane won hard, took turret at 10 mins, midlane went even, jungle got fed, and tryndamere fed their ad thresh top. Tryndamere was our reason for losing, and he was in Trynd's main role vs a support (not saying ad thresh top is bad, have never seen it lose)
So weird picks I try and support
Disulfiram1 votesThis is probably a corollary of the "you can't pick nor build anything that wasn't in the LCS" mentality: people are not used to "weird" picks, so don't have any clue on how to deal with them.
And bot is even worse in this respect, since even if one knows what to do the other one not having a clue is still enough to lose them the lane.
Anyway, props for trying something unusual! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
KGS Mystiq1 votes"i play ahri adc on my main diamond account for 67% winrate from 250 avarage games so just let ne play" also add that youre korean.
FallenSeruvim1 votesItemization and build path? I am thinking about her mobility with the Q speed up and I can totally picture this working. Though with only being an AA'er with no other modifications besides the items being build, I'm unsure of safest build path.
Captain Aishi2 voteswhen I play her i tend to go bork, shiv, i-edge, last whisper+ defensive item
with maxing charm first, it increases it's CC duration, which is pretty strong in the early levels when setting up ganks
and she makes up for the lack of damage steroids with her incredible safety with Q movespeed, charm for self peel and ult for repositioning
Disulfiram1 votesNot to mention that those 2 seconds of hard CC combined with the burst from shiv+ie make her a strong duelist vs other squishies even late. And if they dodge the charm, you can always ult out of the way.
[slayer-jinx-catface]
Ahristocats1 votes
is core
LankPants1 votesI can give you a straight answer without testing. It's playable but fairly bad. It's not like you're playing AP Vayne or something, you can contribute to fights but you'll always have to question why you're playing ADC Ahri rather than Lucian or Vayne who have similar strengths but are generally just far better than ADC Ahri.
As for not getting trolled, just ask your team if they care if you don't play that seriously in champ select. You try over 3 or 4 games and you'll find a team who doesn't care as much.
Disulfiram1 votesFor the same reason one would pick Cait instead of Jihn, I guess... personal preference/the other was banned/just because.
(Btw, Ahri offers 2 seconds of hard CC, which is very powerful on an adc and imho a very good reason to choose her over Vayne - provided that the enemy team doesn't include 4 tanks, of course)
IcyPepper1 votesWhy not just build AP Ahri specially for tower destruction?
Just throw in one or two of 
ADC Ahri isn't great for trading and dueling, especially against other ADC's. If you're going ADC Ahri, you're going for a tower destroyer whose mobility can get them the hell out of a bad situation. So rather, why not try a more tower-focused AP build?
Paroe1 votesWhy not just build AP Ahri specially for tower destruction?
Just throw in one or two of
ADC Ahri isn't great for trading and dueling, especially against other ADC's. If you're going ADC Ahri, you're going for a tower destroyer whose mobility can get them the hell out of a bad situation. So rather, why not try a more tower-focused AP build?
ASP runes/masteries
and 
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Its what i use as my jungle yi build, works pretty damn well.
IcyPepper1 votesExcept Yi is AD and has a couple aa steroids...?
Not sure crit would be a great stat on Ahri. What I posted is what I'd try modding her usual AP build with, so her spells will still tickle a bit but having a hefty focus on tower destruction. I don't think you can crit on towers.
warpenguin5551 votesSo they think YOU'RE the troll huh. lol. Its not trolling if you're still trying to win, sounds to me like the other 4 were the real trolls lol
69469238DEL11 votesThis has to be a bait
Only Play Darius1 votesI played ADC Ahri in an ARAM game where we were short on physical damage. Somehow I carried. Would still never do it in a real game.
Disulfiram1 votesWhy not, if it worked that well?
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesProblem: the thesis cannot be tested if the other 4 players go out of their way to intentionally lose the normal game "because you're trolling".
(You can win bot games 1v5 as AP Garen, so please don't bother bringing them up)
Ideas for a solution?
you can make a premade of serious countermeta friends.
btw ahri wins earlygame but what is actually different now that makes her latergame better? Especially now that many champs are getting stronger by using armor penetration for this particular role which she doesn't scale that well with.
TouchFluffyTaìl1 votes
can play any role, been there, done that.
RogueWill1 votesSolution, make 4 friends. I mean it ain't that hard
