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@Meddler: What are you trying with Irelia in PBE?

darkdill··2 votes·731 views
7/26 PBE Update

#Irelia Ionian Fervor (Passive) - [several changes! WIP] Range down to 1000 from 1400 No longer reduces duration of disables for each nearby enemy champion 1=10%, 2=25%, 3= 40%. Now reduces duration of disables on Irelia based on if she is outnumbered (self + allies vs enemies)

  • Even Fight is always 10%
  • Outnumber bonus is 25/30/35/40% at levels 1/6/11/16 [EXAMPLES:
  1. Irelia and her jungler are ganking a single enemy. Irelia gets 0%.
  2. Irelia is dueling a renekton in lane. Irelia gets 10%
  3. Irelia is being ganked by Lee sin and Renekton - Irelia gets 25-40% based on level.]

Sounds like you're adjusting Irelia to be the "stronger when at a disadvantage" Champion, changing her passive so she doesn't ALWAYS have 40% bonus Tenacity for team fights, but only that bonus when her team is caught out of position. It's a novel concept, but I can only see this as a band-aid fix for the majority of other issues she has (namely, too many things in her kit).

I hope that this is only to tide her by until she's scheduled for a full rework, not the extent of the rework itself.

16 Comments

Linna Excel3 votes

I feel like riot is trying to do two things:

  1. slowly remove tenacity from the game.
  2. slowly do little nerfs to irelia that aren't much together but when all are done, she's trash and they can then rework her.
Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wFlOtKBz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-26T23:48:39.346+0000)

  1. slowly remove tenacity from the game.

What do you mean slowly? we used to have 3 tenacity items and a straight tenacity mastery at low levels.

Now we have a tenacity mastery at high tier and it is saddled with slow resist.... we also only have ONE tenacity item which is worse than every other we had before it, gg.

Sona x Rubick2 votes

i find it a really good change, nerfing her teamfight tenacity while keeping it in some situation.

Raxistaicho1 votes

This absolutely isn't the "extent of the rework", lol. It sounds like they plan to change basically everything but her Q based on what I've heard.

Skias1 votes

{quoted}

This absolutely isn't the "extent of the rework", lol. It sounds like they plan to change basically everything but her Q based on what I've heard.

They may as well. She's a themeless, kitless steroid with an uninteresting story.

Raxistaicho1 votes

Her story is certainly good, but she could do with a more defined theme. Riot seems to be going for the idea of "stronger when disadvantaged", which is interesting.

Irelia Bot1 votes

{quoted}

They may as well. She's a themeless, kitless steroid with an uninteresting story.

Theme matters little in the eyes of the ones who play the champ and like their play style.

Skias1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wFlOtKBz,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-07-27T00:32:46.941+0000)

Theme matters little in the eyes of the ones who play the champ and like their play style.

She has no play "style". She's literally 3 forms of auto attacks and her R is a repeatable linear skill shot that you spam into minion waves. I get that someone might be attached to her, but you'll notice she's only played when items and her steroids allow her to right click her foes out of lane.

Irelia Bot2 votes

{quoted}

She has no play "style". She's literally 3 forms of auto attacks and her R is a repeatable linear skill shot that you spam into minion waves. I get that someone might be attached to her, but you'll notice she's only played when items and her steroids allow her to right click her foes out of lane.

So... what valid point did you have again?

All I see is a abridged explanation off her abilities and praising her passive nerf which is not one of her "3 forms of auto attacks".

Skias1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wFlOtKBz,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-27T02:25:06.436+0000)

So... what valid point did you have again?

All I see is a abridged explanation off her abilities and praising her passive nerf which is not one of her "3 forms of auto attacks".

She has no abilities. They literally nerfed one of her many steroids because she's suffocating top with her stats. Did you notice Renekton, the bar of top was buffed to try and restore order there? This is literally a bandaid to keep her weak until she gets a full Sion level rework is my point. She cannot be strong. She warps the game.

Irelia Bot2 votes

{quoted}

She has no abilities. They literally nerfed one of her many steroids because she's suffocating top with her stats. Did you notice Renekton, the bar of top was buffed to try and restore order there? This is literally a bandaid to keep her weak until she gets a full Sion level rework is my point. She cannot be strong. She warps the game.

"sion level rework" You cleartly missed them saying BladeSurge is likely going to stay as is or be improved.

There will be changes but somethings will more then likely stay the same.

I jsut hope they are more original then another invulnerability ult like they did with Taric.

Skias1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wFlOtKBz,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-27T04:42:52.367+0000)

"sion level rework" You cleartly missed them saying BladeSurge is likely going to stay as is or be improved.

There will be changes but somethings will more then likely stay the same.

I jsut hope they are more original then another invulnerability ult like they did with Taric.

Taric's Rework was by far my favorite. They captured his character so well. Her ult is the only thing that resembles an ability, I'd hope they'd keep it.

Ralanr1 votes

Interesting.

BattleBoar1 votes

I just wish they will rework ever thing but her Q(what I think of when I hear her name), some what her E(keep it as her only CC but that really it) and R(I just like the way it looks) all ready. Her pass and W can go for all I care.

Dominick Destine1 votes

This will have exactly zero effect on Irelia's current dominance.

Lugg1 votes

They are trying to balance her without having to gut her. The simple fact is that she is too strong right now and they want to try some minor adjustments first before going major.

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