Seriously, I main top lane. I've never had a problem with Riven, or Jax, or Gnar, or Darius or Tryndamere or whatever the fuck my enemy is. You know why? Because I'm good.
So please, shut the fuck up and deal with it, or get good at top lane, because they're not "op."
Dr Poro3 votesSilver 5 says "get good at top lane". I usually don't play the "you're low rank" argument, but if you tell people to get good, at least make sure you are good yourself.
There are no good Rivens in silver. Good Rivens climb to Diamond or Platinum atleast. That's where you see Rivens doing their combo in less than a second.
Anyways, I don't mind playing against riven anymore, as long as I'm playing a champ I'm familiar with. Playing against Riven has become a skill test for me. I've played against so many Rivens lately that I've figured out the windows of opportunity and I often even beat Riven in lane with lategame champions. (talking about plat II+ matches here). Still, Riven is a match up where you have to be careful at all times. Even when 2-0, you still lose against her if you just go all in against her while she has all abilities available. If you're playing a new champ for the first time, facing a Riven is just cancer because you have to sit through the first 10-20 minutes of the game. Riven will fall off if she can't get kills on you, but it'll be a boring early game. If you know your champion already, atleast you can try to outplay her. You know that won't be the case with a new champ.
redniwediS3 votesThey won't shut up, even after they actually learn to deal with whatever champion they are QQing about. People constantly complaining has made a mockery of what G&B was back before Riot forced all the GDers onto the boards.
JustMyBassCannon1 votesEh, old CF forums weren't a whole lot better, but they were definitely less...polluted.
Ben Sharpio2 votesOk of course youre not going to have a problem fighting these champions when you play overpowered bullcrap meta champions. You're all like "i have no problem killing op champions with op champions, i deserve challenjour, get good gg" while you sit there, using nidalee top lane, yi top lane, GNAR TOP LANE, GAREN, YASUO (WTF?!?!) and then you tell us hard working league of legends players who try to earn their kills to stfu about a broken ass, nerf needing steroid using ellen degenerous lookin ass champion that has finally been disabled? How about you get good and use champions that take skill. How dare you
Shroom Junkie1 votesOk of course youre not going to have a problem fighting these champions when you play overpowered bullcrap meta champions. You're all like "i have no problem killing op champions with op champions, i deserve challenjour, get good gg" while you sit there, using nidalee top lane, yi top lane, GNAR TOP LANE, GAREN, YASUO (WTF?!?!) and then you tell us hard working league of legends players who try to earn their kills to stfu about a broken ass, nerf needing steroid using ellen degenerous lookin ass champion that has finally been disabled? How about you get good and use champions that take skill. How dare you
wat.
Firstly, I never said I deserved challenger, and secondly, Nidalee isn't even an OP top laner. I used it as a pick for the current situation, I rarely play Nid top except to compensate for the team comp, such as lacking burst damage.
And what's this about Yasuo top lane? Did you even look at my match? I was Yasuo mid dumb shit. And Yas isn't even OP top lane. Heck, Yasuo is the shittest top lane I've ever fought. Worse than even AD Soraka, and I'm being totally serious here, I've gone against AD Soraka and she was better than that fuckaluck.
And if we're saying all those are OP, I'm just going to say all the top laners.
tl;dr every top laner
Craft Zeppelin1 votesShroom Junkie1 votes[{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wFc6EARo,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-17T19:12:18.928+0000)
This is awful.
Sorry, did I say I was challenger good? No, I said I was good. As in I'm a good top laner. Never said any specifics, I could mean Bronze good, could mean Plat good, could just mean good. And if you can't fight and win lane in the top lane then you just aren't good. But me? I'm good enough to win at least 75% of my top lane matches.
That's in my elo. If I get paired against a challenger player, of course I'm going to fucking die. But not because of who they picked, because they're better than me in general. No matter who I pick, whether it be Bard top, or Riven, or Tryndamere, or who the fuck ever.
Craft Zeppelin1 votesSorry, did I say I was challenger good? No, I said I was good. As in I'm a good top laner. Never said any specifics, I could mean Bronze good, could mean Plat good, could just mean good. And if you can't fight and win lane in the top lane then you just aren't good. But me?** I'm good enough to win at least 75% of my top lane matches. **> That's in my elo. If I get paired against a challenger player, of course I'm going to fucking die. But not because of who they picked, because they're better than me in general. No matter who I pick, whether it be Bard top, or Riven, or Tryndamere, or who the fuck ever.
DUDE. The reason you stopped playing ranked 24 days ago was because you got totally rekt with a winrate of only near 30% and you are like 4LP in Silver 5 fearing that you are to be demoted to bronze. you buy no wards, never upgrade your yellow trinket playing tryndamere, rumble or anything . You also don't have a single champ that has a KDA over 3 in ranked which is a simple indication you're pure suicidal without the concept of trading in your mind.
From these simple results of your ranked play, are you even sure about those above comments about Riven? because you're literally counter proving yourself that Riven is strong which is just hillarious just like the guy above posted.
TheRakkun2 votesSpammable mobility Spammable CC Shield that scales with the stat she builds, that is also spammable, that is also a dash Animation canceling allows you to do ridiculous amounts of damage especially with passive AD Steroid Execute that can kill champions even if they're above 50% health Resourceless
Wind Whistler1 votesSpammable mobility Spammable CC Shield that scales with the stat she builds, that is also spammable, that is also a dash Animation canceling allows you to do ridiculous amounts of damage especially with passive AD Steroid Execute that can kill champions even if they're above 50% health Resourceless
Yeah, she should definately have mana so she can't spam abilities. Same with Katarina, too.
Shroom Junkie1 votesSpammable mobility Spammable CC Shield that scales with the stat she builds, that is also spammable, that is also a dash Animation canceling allows you to do ridiculous amounts of damage especially with passive AD Steroid Execute that can kill champions even if they're above 50% health Resourceless
sorry what
Execute that can kill champions even if they're above 50% health
sorry WHAT?!
no no it cannot I've played against and as Riven plenty of times and they have to be at least below 20% health, more if a tank or fighter, just to kill them with her ult.
"Spammable mobility" She then loses most of her damage. I'll admit she can still AA but Riven doesn't have a very good late game, and, playing against and as Riven plenty of times(as stated before), as long as you can bait her abilities out or otherwise sustain through them with lifesteal or shields, its not that big of a problem. Early game she has insanely long cooldowns, mid-game is average cooldowns, and late is extremely short, but she falls off in damage and whatnot, especially being melee with her only gap closers being her defense and offense.
"Spammable CC" Her Q is used for many things. Mobility, damage, CC. But whatever you use it for, you can generally only use it for one of those. Unless the enemy runs, then you can use it to catch up and deal damage, as well as CC on the last. Her stun I'll admit is annoying as fuck, but its insanely low and usually only used to get a few hits in and damage, or sometimes get behind your enemy to block their escape, or sometimes defensively so you can run away.
"Shield that scales with the stat she builds, that is also spammable, that is also a dash" The first time I read about her E, I was like, "WHAT THE FUCK?! AD SCALING SHIELD?", but honestly when you incorporate it into the game, its only bonus AD. The max it can block is usually about one or two tower shots. Granted that's a lot, but its a pretty short shield, if you're not stupid you'll try to wait it out and then use your kit(unless you burst).
"AD Steroid" Its really only 20% AD, and though that can be a lot, her ult is generally used for the execute and range + larger AOE rather than the AD steroid.
"Resourceless" What else would she have? Mana? She'd run low within the first 2 minutes of laning. Maybe energy like Shen and others have, but definitely not mana.
"Animation canceling allows you to do ridiculous amounts of damage especially with passive"
Animation canceling takes a lot of practice to do right. I certainly can't do it to its fullest. Heck, it takes probably 3-4 seconds just for me to get off my kit. And to add to that, once her kit is down, its down for good. If she didn't get the kill, then she has nothing else but AA's. I'll be totally honest here, when played right she can be OP as fuck, but what champs aren't? Even the infamous Kassadin can be OP if played in the right hands.
TheRakkun1 votessorry what
sorry WHAT?!
no no it cannot I've played against and as Riven plenty of times and they have to be at least below 20% health, more if a tank or fighter, just to kill them with her ult. ** Me (Rengo) and Darius both attacking a Riven at maybe 10% health, we're both at maybe 50% health, suddenly she ults and gets a double**
"Spammable mobility" She then loses most of her damage Who cares if you lose your damage if you're getting away safely, it's not like you're going to go back in immediately is it? . I'll admit she can still AA but Riven doesn't have a very good late game Sure that's why she outscales most toplaners, and, playing against and as Riven plenty of times(as stated before), as long as you can bait her abilities out or otherwise sustain through them with lifesteal or shields, its not that big of a problem. Early game she has insanely long cooldowns Doesn't mean much when she only really needs one rotation to mess you up early game, mid-game is average cooldowns, and late is extremely short, but she falls off in damage Sure she does, keep telling yourself that and whatnot, especially being melee with her only gap closers being her defense and offense Seems like a lot loaded into one ability.
"Spammable CC" Her Q is used for many things. Mobility, damage, CC. But whatever you use it for, you can generally only use it for one of those. Unless the enemy runs, then you can use it to catch up and deal damage, as well as CC on the last. Her stun I'll admit is annoying as fuck, but its insanely low and usually only used to get a few hits in and damage Early game that's often enough to force a back, or sometimes get behind your enemy to block their escape, or sometimes defensively so you can run away Woah that is a LOT of utility in one move.
"Shield that scales with the stat she builds, that is also spammable, that is also a dash" The first time I read about her E, I was like, "WHAT THE FUCK?! AD SCALING SHIELD?", but honestly when you incorporate it into the game, its only bonus AD. The max it can block is usually about one or two tower shots. Granted that's a lot Indeed it is, especially because they're tower shots, but its a pretty short shield Probably still enough to save you from a Veigar/lux ult, if you're not stupid you'll try to wait it out and then use your kit(unless you burst) ** More often than not she's using it as an escape or to block your most damaging ability which with it's late game spammability adds a lot of defence**.
"AD Steroid" Its really only 20% AD, and though that can be a lot It really is especially since it hurts a lot more when she build BC, her ult is generally used for the execute Which in it's self is a pretty strong thing and seems a lot crammed into one ability, one of the strongest executes in the game and range + larger AOE rather than the AD steroid She's getting range despite the fact she has all this mobility which begs the question of why?.
"Resourceless" What else would she have? Mana? She'd run low within the first 2 minutes of laning Good, then perhaps laners can farm without worrying about being knocked up every time they go into get CS. Maybe energy like Shen and others have, but definitely not mana.
"Animation canceling allows you to do ridiculous amounts of damage especially with passive"
Animation canceling takes a lot of practice to do right Doesn't excuse the amount of power it gives a person who CAN do it. I certainly can't do it to its fullest. Heck, it takes probably 3-4 seconds just for me to get off my kit. And to add to that, once her kit is down, its down for good. If she didn't get the kill, then she has nothing else but AA's. I'll be totally honest here, when played right she can be OP as fuck, but what champs aren't? Even the infamous Kassadin can be OP if played in the right hands.