If we increase the ban system then should we reduce the dodge penalties?

SlashStriker··2 votes·339 views

Because I don't think its fair that i am forbidden to compete with my main champion. The way i see it that for most of the time my champion is gonna get perma banned and i would most likely be bare able to compete with it

I wonder what would happen if we suddenly decide to ban LCS players the same way we ban champions

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CannonLordFreed5 votes

You're aware of how childish that is, right? You could always just learn more champions instead of just one-tricking Yasuo. Then you could play the game without have to throw a fit every time your singular champ gets banned and you wouldn't have to force 9 other human beings through one of the long ass queues we already have to deal with, because of people like you.

SlashStriker1 votes

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You're aware of how childish that is, right? You could always just learn more champions instead of just one-tricking Yasuo. Then you could play the game without have to throw a fit every time your singular champ gets banned and you wouldn't have to force 9 other human beings through one of the long ass queues we already have to deal with, because of people like you.

the more childish is to keep banning champions without learning to deal with them

CannonLordFreed5 votes

It's not that I can't deal with a certain champ, it's that I don't want to deal with them. My ability to counter them and my enjoyment playing against them are two completely different things. I ban champs because they're not fun to fight against. Champions like Yasuo who can deal large amounts of damage very quickly and completely nullify a lot of powerful abilities with a single button press or champions like Caitlyn who can restrict mobility in lane and deal sudden bursts of damage from a very large distance. Sure, I can deal with these things. I can play more carefully and sidestep skillshots and get better at the game, but I don't like having to deal with these things, so I ban them. This is the thought that goes into most people banning champs. Am I going to have a good time playing League if I have to deal with this champion?

SlashStriker1 votes

as you like to ban champions that deny the ability for you to have fun I'd like to dodge queues that deny me the ability to have fun with the champion i like to play

I think its fair deal that

  • you get 10 bans
  • others get reduced dodge penalties

you said its childish to dodge but look what you wrote

It's not that I can't deal with a certain champ, it's that I don't want to deal with them

CannonLordFreed3 votes

You really want to force other people back into queue because you didn't get your champ? If you want to get your champ, you have blind pick. If not, you can suck it up, and deal with the consequences. That's how life works. Riot isn't going to lower the penalty for forcing people to wait in longer queues when that's already a problem. If anything, people like you are going to make even more people get autofilled, and make this even more of a problem. How would you feel if you finally got the champ that you wanted, and then someone dodged because "Ah well, I don't want to play since my champ is banned, might as well dodge since it's not going to be penalized." You are only thinking from the point of view that you are the only one who can dodge. If Riot were to lower the penalty for dodging, it would be even harder to so much as get into a game, and it would be nearly impossible to actually play League anymore unless you go play Blind Pick.

SlashStriker1 votes

So you are saying that that Offessive player in Football should become goalkeeper? Yeah its definitely their fault for not being good at keeping the enemy team from scoring goal because he is really bad at being goalkeeper right?

Or maybe a hokey player should stop play hokey and become Basketball player?

Or a good Surgeon should becomes a Architect?

Maybe Faker should give up being mid laner and go jungle or support then

CannonLordFreed1 votes

A good offensive player would at least be aware of what he would have to do to be goalkeeper. The hockey player would probably be more like autofill rather than having to play a different champ, and autofill would be forcing so many more people into support if more people were dodging, which would make people dodge more. If your champ gets banned you should have other champs that you can fall back on to be able to play and enjoy, and help the team. I personally enjoy playing Lulu, but she's obviously going to get banned, so I can also play Tahm Kench, Braum, Rakan, Soraka, Bard, and Sona, so that I'll always have a champ that I can play and enjoy playing, and I'll be able to fit into my teamcomp better. If you can only play one champion, and must dodge if you don't get that champ, you are not only forcing people into longer Queues, but you are a detriment to your team. Any good player will be able to play more than 1% of the about 130 champs that we have. It's even worse that you want your champ to not get permabanned, but you will also be reaping the benefits of being able to ban a champ every game as well. You can actively ban champions that will counter your champion, and then just dodge when you don't get your champ. Do you not see the problem here?

Darkdemon6533 votes

I don't know about reducing dodge penalties, but it creates an even better opportunity to bring back team builder.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

I wonder what would happen if we suddenly decide to ban LCS players the same way we ban champions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXzEcwYs8Eo

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