i love champion designers

Knight SoIaire ·May 29, 2015·3 votes·338 views

who needs any rules to keep a champion ballanced ... lets jst throw literal crap at the ballance team cause they need to get rekt for existing

screw the powerbudget screew the limitation on outplay potential screw the skillshots and give them to everyone ... you seen that ... thats a double screw screew the highlighted strenghts and weaknesses

and c-c-c-c-combo breaker, screw the limitation on the amount of sskills champion has, 3 skills in a passive 2 in q 4 in w, 1 in e becuase why not, and 7 ults to ballance it out

but seriously rito, you need to nerf those guys becuase they are so op that allance team doesnt get a life and other crap that will probably never be ballanced (honorable mention )

5 Comments

KazaLyn ShaoMay 29, 20153 votes

Riot's champion designers don't know a thing about balance. They just fall in love with a concept and will move hell and high water to attain it, even if that means breaking every rule in the book. It's quite stupid, really.

Critmaster GarenMay 29, 20151 votes

its like riots champion designers have split personality disorder.

on one hand, they want each champion to have a clear nieche and design perfectly well balanced champions with clear strength and weaknesses. sion is a great example of how every ability in his kit has a clear way to play around it. but if chained correctly by the sion, landing one makes hitting the next easier, and can lead to the sion being very effective.

on the other hand they just go "fuck our design goals" and create ultra versatile jack of all tade champions that dont have actual weaknesses, and something of everything in their kits, while still having very specific strengths.

i remember morello specifically saying, that designing manaless ranged champions was a mistake since they are far too opressive in lane due to their limitless sustain combined with poke from a safe distance. they made the mistake with kennen and vlad and you would think they learned from that.

i couldnt believe my eyes, when i saw fucking gnars kit at his release. i still dont understand why this champion was made, when they know he would have the same issues.

SEKAIMay 29, 20151 votes

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its like riots champion designers have split personality disorder.... i remember morello specifically saying, that designing manaless ranged champions was a mistake .

Maybe the veterans at Riot just stopped caring altogether at some point, because the amount of irreversible fk ups are just too much to handle by mere men's brains, not to mention it's still growing as we speak.

Critmaster GarenMay 29, 20151 votes

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Maybe the veterans at Riot just stopped caring altogether at some point, because the amount of irreversible fk ups are just too much to handle by mere men's brains, not to mention it's still increasing as we're speaking.

but thats just the thing. its not irreversable. sion is a great example of how a really shitty outdated champion was turned into a very balanced and very well designed champion.

thats the entire point of gameplay updates. when it comes to game health, both zileans and veigars updates are a huge success. they may need minor tweaking now, but their core problems that couldnt have been adjusted with simple scaling changes have been fixed.

not every rework is a sucess, but slowly they have been improving the old champions and did a pretty good job at balancing them out. they have collected experience and are getting much better at these reworks.

literally all they have to do is stop piling onto the group of overloaded champions, apply the same design ideals that theyre using for reworks to new champions, and catch up with the updates on the still existing problematic champions.

of course if they just keep making these champions that are good at everything and great at some things, theyll never get done.

Knight SoIaire May 29, 20151 votes

you said irrewersible ? its easily rewersible

correct one fk up at a time and take some time to just medicorely ballance the outcome

the thing is that riot always does the second part forgetting about the first