Her e doesnt give an indicator to when your going to get out of it unlike morganas ult its really annoying and can make a difference when fighting her. Im not saying she needs nerfs but this change would make it a bit easier to play against her.
Nahui3 votesLet's make it easier to fight the 48% win rate champ.
NinjaGuy691 votesLet's make it easier to fight the 48% win rate champ.
Hate seeing ignorant comments like this. LeBlanc has the following win rates and play rates on these aggregate sites as of this current patch:
OP.gg Win Rate: 48.96% Play Rate: 11.51%
Champion.gg Win Rate: 48.11% Play Rate: 11.57%
Lolking.net Win Rate: 47.60% Play Rate: 14.30%
If you average up all those win rates, you get 48.22%, but that's not the only number that matters. The bitch also has about an 11.50% play rate which is double the regular play rate of many other champions. The reason why her win rate is so low isn't because she's weak. It's because shitty mid laners pick her after their comfort picks get banned out and her win rate gets dragged down by these inexperienced players.
LeBlanc's current state is honestly unacceptable and it's been that way for a long time, but as we all know, the Balance Team sucks at their jobs so they don't nerf the bitch. What's worse is that they probably know she's broken but they let her stay in this broken state because she isn't as ubiquitous as some of the more conventional LC$ mid laners like Viktor and Vlad at the moment. Mark my words though: I guarantee you that bitch is going to pop right back up along with that other whore Ahri as soon as they hit Viktor and Vlad with a few more nerfs.
Nahui2 votesThat's speculation, not hard fact. That's pure speculation. We need to go off of actual numbers, not simply "Well this number must be because of this."
Her win rate is on the lower side. She's number 43/48 mid champions. Her placement has even decreased recently. There is nothing wrong with an assassin 100-0ing a squishy. She can be counter built and CC'd, as well as exhausted and it's why she has a 48% rate plus the fact that she falls off late game.
People assume ADCs should have some fighting chance vs Assassins, and that's simply not true. In a 1v1 scenario, an ADC should never have a shot in hell unless there is some massive gold differential and in team fights, which she is poor at mind you, she can only touch a carry should they over extend.
She's a champion that relies on mistakes, and that's why she's sub-50% and will not and should not be touched.
NinjaGuy691 votesThat's speculation, not hard fact. That's pure speculation. We need to go off of actual numbers, not simply "Well this number must be because of this."
Her win rate is on the lower side. She's number 43/48 mid champions. Her placement has even decreased recently. There is nothing wrong with an assassin 100-0ing a squishy. She can be counter built and CC'd, as well as exhausted and it's why she has a 48% rate plus the fact that she falls off late game.
She's a champion that relies on mistakes, and that's why she's sub-50% and will not and should not be touched.
Really? You can't be serious. Such an uneducated analysis. First of all, that's what play rate means. It means a lot of people are playing her. She currently has the second highest play rate in mid lane according to OP.gg. Play rates don't go up by magic, it means that she's getting played more often than other mid laners. So it's just common sense and logic that worse players or players who are less experienced with her would lose more often and drag down her win rate. This isn't speculation.
Secondly, of course she's going to one shot a squishy because that's what assassins do but that wasn't my point. My point is that she isn't nearly as bad as you're making her out to be. If only the LeBlanc mains and LeBlanc enthusiasts were playing her, I guarantee you that her win rate would probably be around a 53% - 55% easily.
Lastly, she doesn't need to rely on others to make mistakes when she has a point-and-click Q and her distortion has a collision radius of 240 units (I believe), which is only 60 units less than a Malphite ult. Think about that. You know how hard it would be to miss her distortion when it has such a forgiving collision radius? And on top of that, she can hop back to her distortion. It's literally a Malphite ult with a get out of jail for free card. But she's an older champion and because of that, she suffers from an simple kit that doesn't require very much skill to master which can make her easy to play but also easy to make mistakes with.
You're fucking up if you think you know what you're talking about boy.
Nahui1 votesA malphite ult without the knock up lol. So just pure damage. And it's got not nearly the range, and much slower. Her E's hit box is already dirt thin, and her mana costs are quite high to compensate for the free mimic.
I'm not saying she's a bad champion, not at all. But she doesn't need nerfs with her current state. She's not nearly pick/ban, her percentages are low. You don't nerf champs because they're popular and played a lot. You nerf because they are inhibiting the fun and fairness of the game.
And not relying on mistakes? Don't give me your condescension with "boy" and try and discredit me. You know -nothing- about Leblanc if you believe she doesn't rely on mistakes and over extensions anywhere past early-mid game. Her "malphite ult" as you throw out of proportion is not simple enough to just jump in. CC exists, human intelligence exists.
She lacks reliable CC, and makes up for it in heavy damage and mobility, however the reliability of damage falls off the longer the game goes.
I admit getting dumpstered by a Leblanc feels shitty and counterplayless. But that's how assassins have always been. She's an early game dominant bully that works on a clock that is slowly ticking down.
Now this proposed nerf, or rather clarity change isn't huge and honestly wouldn't change anything, because knowing the range is irrelevant really as its up to her whether you get out or not, it's still unnecessary in her current state. If you have mobility, you'll use it and get out of the range. If not, she chooses whether she wants you snared or not.
Don't demonize point and click. It's a two part spell so point and click is kind of necessary. If Leblanc's point click combos are an issue, then tun your attention towards Annie, Ryze, Akali, and many more champs who have very similar skills.
Balance isn't done around solo queue barring complete stomp champs that show a dominant trend for a long time. It's done around pro play, and Leblanc isn't dominant there.
Also a side note, this would actually be a buff to a Leblanc as I just realized. If there is a range indicator on the enemy, you'd have to give one to LB too. And you don't want her knowing exactly how much range (1000) she has.
Poske1 votesDude Le bl is highskillcap
I remember her being Pick or bann when she had 45% winrate
Poske2 votesLe bl main here. Completly agree there is no reason not to implement it
Its ussualy funny when i cast my chain and karma casts it on me to. And then I get out of her chain range since I know I got bigger chain range
Handy Sandy 1 voteshow does it make a difference? you're out when it's out and you keep attacking
BoilTheOil2 votesbecause i dont know when imma be out
Nahui1 votesThey'd give one to LB too. You don't want that. Just run in one direction and hope you get out, you'll know your out when it breaks.