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CertainlyT I need to apologize! m(_ _)m

El Seibzehn··4 votes·851 views

New Mordekaiser is glorious!!! The his weaknesses are major weaknesses, but his strengths are amazing. I thought that he would lose turret pushing power but nope. I thought that I would lose the ability to inhibit my mid lane opponent from crashing most waves into their turrets, so instead now I crash enemy adc's waves into turret. He's so monstrous if you fight him up close with an ally that you can easily 2v3 with the right suuport, but in return you need to have someone with you at all times because you won't be able to do anything by yourself and you will lose a 1v1 against a non fed opponent so easily. I have to say that as a Morde main I like him alot now but I won't be able to play him in ranked for a long time until most supports know how to play with him because he's really unique in how he plays. For the first time ever I don't fear Rengar, Zed, or Fizz, who I despise with a passion. Well anyway thank you again! :D P.S. Boots +4 pots is still best on him and I would never waste gold on building Relic Shield on him. Similarly, I would never build AD on him because AP and tankiness are still perfect on him.

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Troy2426212 votes

I hardly believe Morde's new design is healthier than his old design. In fact, now, it's even more binary.

Matezoide1 votes

You feared Rengar, Zed and Fizz as old Mordekaiser? He seems to be far weaker against assassins now, due to the severely reduced burst.

His turret pushing is also much weaker, sorry. You have one AoE ability and severely lowered Attack Speed. I dont see how he pushes any better now, but i might be missing something here.

El Seibzehn1 votes

You are missing alot actually. His rank 5 W has the ability to completely clear a creep wave with support near you and on average I take 1 to 2 turrets with a dragon ghost. It hits turrets like a truck and tanks them pretty well as well. it can't tank inhib turrets that well but that's not much of an issue.

In regards to assasins, they have a really hard time killing him if he has someone next to him because his W hits like a truck, gives a huge rank 5 heal and a pretty large shield that if you are building resistances and health (rylais + abyssal + randuins are what I build) he can just barely survive the ults of 2 assasins (2 of my last 4 games as new Morde have had Zed + Fizz and I can live through 2 ults of theirs together.) The trick in seeing the strength of new Morde is that his W is actually just as powerful as his Q when used correctly and that it's poor play on their part to dive onto you if you have any ally next to you.

Also I'm going to mention this again. Don't build AD on him. It's a trap. He has 4 good spells with 4 good scalings with AP vs 2 good spells with good scalings with AD. AD is pointless to get half ass on him because your Q3 + your R are your main source of dmg him, and your W +E are your staying power + catching ability on him. Only champs I've really struggled with are Kalista and Irelia so far with him.

Matezoide1 votes

Ah, you are talking about him having an ally next to himself.

That explains the difference here. What you are saying here is mostly true, but i do have to disagree on his pushing.

While his new W pushing isnt bad, you have to consider it requires an ally with you, while old Mordekaiser could just clear waves with a single E + Q by himself, while generating more shield from hitting said waves (Which would be incredibly useful when someone inevitably comes to stop you). Assuming the ally is there, Old Mord could always W his ally as well to help his pushing.

If we are counting ghosts, then i wish to mention that, due to his Ghost having more AD than currently, Mord has little issues taking turrets before the 30 seconds are up, even if it is a sub-standard one. Dragon is, furthermore, fairly unreliable to actually get, and turns into a ''Win-More'' mechanic since you are likely ahead if you got it to begin with.

I do, however, have to agree that his ability to solo a turret has increased. ADC Ghosts just cant face tank the turret near as well as Dragon, and this is a point i did ignore.

However, i still believe that his overral pushing ability is still weaker, particullary his solo, not only because of a speed decrease, but also because he is far easier to kill now.

Assassins in general just never felt like a threat unless i was behind. Ultimate's huge healing tended to do the trick for me when i had to duel them. Maybe it is because i built slighty tankier or aimed at minions whenever possible, for extra shield? His solo dueling took a major hit from what i have seen, but you probably play differently from me. How would you handle a Zed that is coming for you when you are both at equal gold and an ally isnt near enough to help?

I am also sorry to admit that i downvoted you, but it isnt because of your point. While i see what you are trying to say, i have a hard time actually being sorry for CertainlyT.

Even if Mord ends up in a good spot, healthy spot, he commited numerous mistakes through this (Not only on the lack of Feedback, but the Patch Notes are downright incorrect for several changes), which could have been avoided if he tried a bit harder to interact with us. Although he got insulted a lot, many of us wanted a concise conversation that, unfortunately, didnt happen.

El Seibzehn1 votes

I should make one thing clear up front. My fear of Assasins is more due to playing other people besides Mordekaiser. As Morde I didn't really fear one assasin but 2 could bring me down. what I am finding now is that I can actually keep an ally alive by my new W. In fact with the right support (Engage melee like Leona, Braum, or Thresh) you become an outright lane bully that can easily trade and keep adc's off your back.

I thoroughly agree with you that it REALLY sucks not being able to use your W solo and combined with how weak he is by himself, it is very hard and not worth the risk to solo split push but what I have found is that every lane that I have played post rework besides the very first has been a crushing win in bot lane, and therefore, I've been able to turn that into immediate dragon pressure and subsequently another tower. He is able to gain control of a game very easily and hold onto it...unless all other lanes are feeding in which case he can't solo carry a game like that.

Btw with new Morde to answer your question about a Zed coming at you when you are by yourself, the answer is that you don't go by yourself in the first place. You make sure that you are always somewhat close to an ally. Position position position.

50000000000000001 votes

How dare you praise CertainlyT! Prepare to be downvoted!

El Seibzehn1 votes

Lel pls don't down vote me! :O

Goosetard1 votes

I can't tell if you're serious or not...

To recap, you're saying you like what they've done because they gave him weaknesses that make it so he can't 1v1 anyone, but 2v2 and 2v3 he rolls face so hard that not even some of the best assassins in the game can stop him?

Uh... sounds like a great champ now.

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