I've always supported riot's decisions to some degree until they decided to kill Veigar outright.

El Seibzehn·2/13/2015, 9:24:09 PM·4 votes·709 views

As a Veigar main I was excited to read the changes that they put on this morning until I saw what they are doing to him, and now I want to cry because he is going to disappear for good now. I don't have a problem with the Baleful Strike change. I think it adds some interesting new play to Veigar and I'm not against it. I also was not against the AP ratio on Primordial Burst being lowered because you might actually have more AP due having the possibility of having higher Baleful Strike farm. And then I saw the stun change... WTF are riot? I could see you lowering the stun duration (as well as slightly lowering the delay on Dark Matter so that you can still hit just barely) but this change means that you might as well remove the ability to hit champions with Dark Matter at all, because it's never going to happen now. The stun doesn't work as a cage because if you don't land Event Horizon directly on top of an opponent, the width of Dark Matter is small enough that anyone Gold rank or higher who has played against Veigar before can easily move out of the way of it (Even if you get stuck inside Event Horizon, all you have to do to dodge a Dark Matter cast into the center is willingly walk into the edge of Event Horizon and you won't get hit.) Early game, in order to kill an opponent you have to land the full combo perfectly with an ignite to kill an opponent and even then some champs can just barely get out of the way of Dark Matter if they have any sort of evasion ability. Guess how many times I've landed a Dark Matter without my stun on someone Gold rank or higher in the last 6 months? If you 0, then you would be correct.

Please Riot. Please don't kill Veigar. Please.

8 Comments

Nucleophilic atk2/13/2015, 9:25:48 PM2 votes

Dude. Veigar doesn't make #LC$BIGPLAY$. He is not allowed to be viable.

redniwediS2/13/2015, 9:26:31 PM1 votes

Don't overreact, Veigar is going to be perfectly fine after these changes go live.

JustMyBassCannon2/13/2015, 10:00:23 PM1 votes

Can one of these people be so kind as to post the PBE notes, seeing that Riot doesn't have PBE patch notes? I don't get why people will complain about something without enough context to actually compare.

Yes, I'm going to go look it up and see if I can find it myself, but it's still irritating to not understand the conversation because there is no context.

Abyssphere2/13/2015, 10:09:20 PM1 votes

If he does do terribly then they won't leave him be. It's common for them to leave champs unplayable after nerfs but when they put out reworks of sorts, they always keep a close eye on them. There's a reason Cassiopeia got her time in the stupidly broken spotlight, after all.

I can't agree or disagree on these changes being bad for Veigar but if they are bad for him then they'll compensate. He won't be left unusable for long.

CaptainTurfu2/27/2015, 9:51:54 PM1 votes

You are absolutly right this is a disgrace to all veigar main's. That wasn't a nerf they just killed him forever...