If You Won't Give Players a Safe Leave Option, then Let Us Jungle Without Smite

The Yetii Rider·6/25/2018, 11:05:49 PM·10 votes·7,736 views

This stupid pick your class system and bans and everything else that we have to do in champ select can be distracting. And if you've been jungling for six hours, and then you come back to game, forget that you rolled support last game, and you get into a game without Smite, well, that is your fault. Definitely. But your entire team shouldn't lose the game because of it.

Just played a game without Smite. I got a camp, got an assist after Warwick invaded my side and stole gromp, and then killed birds. So blue, birds, assist on a level 2 champion. That alone was not enough to get me to level 2. I leveled up right after by leeching some lane XP, but 2 camps and an assist left me at 1.

I could not do red. Could not do all Krugs. Sure, I was Malphite who has a particularly rough first clear, but I simply had no way of getting XP. The current jungle is so heavily tied to the damn items, and you CANNOT purchase the items without Smite. I might as well have been afk. My team got pulled down. My bot lane was doing pretty well and Yi might have carried the game if I wasn't absolutely completely one hundred percent useless.

The tying of jungle camp XP to jungle items was to prevent a pro strategy where bot lane tries to kill Krugs and get level 2 early. But, now Krugs takes super long to do. Now Gromp is a much bigger threat. And both camps spawn a full 10 seconds later. The strat is dead. You don't need to be so goddamn hamfisted with solo queue to prevent strategies in pro play.

13 Comments

DNFVixen6/25/2018, 11:19:43 PM5 votes

Since ghostcrawler came he has messed everything up.

nyakasgoods6/26/2018, 2:14:02 AM4 votes

I dunno about you, but I'm just fine with champs like Shaco and Rengar not being able to take ignite and flash in the jungle.

Pika Fox6/26/2018, 2:46:21 PM2 votes

Could do a mini unsealed spellbook; on spawn before leaving base for the first time you can swap a summoner out for smite, and it will announce globally if anyone does.

That might be the best way to handle the situation in a fair manner.

Ayzev6/26/2018, 11:31:55 AM1 votes

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The tying of jungle camp XP to jungle items was to prevent a pro strategy where bot lane tries to kill Krugs and get level 2 early.

Top laners did that too at some point, just with wolves - clear the camp, recall, buy pots and tp to lane, so you start out with more pots and exp than your opponent. Though I don't know how the viability of this strat varied between low elo, high elo and pro play.

Aptest6/26/2018, 12:51:54 PM1 votes

The affect of this change would be:

Mid would take the chickens, on spawn. Top will take Krug and wolves, on spawn. Bot will take Double Golems, on spawn (only after get some LS).

Jungle will get nothing, and will have to purcahse a gold item.

EDIT:

that was however a fun period with a lot of jungle diversity. many junglers were viable as under-farmed champions and tanks were in their healthiest state ever.