Riot needs to upgrade their Punishment System. Here is why:

Eternal Torment··1 votes·158 views

We see a LOT of people in the boards, in nearly every section that is not "Memes and games" state that they are mad over some people getting away with being really rude, insulting, feeding and trolling.

In My post i want to discuss the first 2 of the 4 addressed Points.

And No, this is not some rant, this is something i have actually conducted a test to underline such.

The Punishment System as it stands is way too filled with Loopholes and ways to completely escape it, because as we know, the reports first trigger an Investigation, which i highly assume is conducted by a Bot or a Program of sorts. The Problem is, a lot of those reports get away easily. Hell, every time you see someone in the boards claim they have been falsely banned, they all have one Thing in common. and only 1 Thing really.

Their Chat Logs contain DIRECTLY USED VULGAR EXPRESSIONS AND HATESPEECHES. You will RARELY Ever see someone reported just for pure tilt, and even less someone who would on the boards Showcase that.

I addressed earlier that i ran my own "Test" For this case, if you have read this far.

And I Actually tested it. For the last 7 Days i have been a COMPLETE Dick to almost every enemy composition i have faced in Normals. Of course, such was not real but i did not let them know in order for it to be as believable as possible. I Called people over all chat pathetic, losers and sometimes even more direct addressions like Scum, BUT I have Never used direct Insults. And Guess what? I GOT AWAY WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY 50+ TOXIC PERFORMANCES.

Yeah, i know it is probably self-harming to say this right now because someone will come her say "No you were actually toxic, you just use this as an excuse to apologize yourself." We all know how the boards work, someone has to always villanize people that address a real Problem.

And This is a Real Problem. I Am Here standing as the living proof that you can get away with ANY Toxic behaviour IF it does not include direct Insults or any hatespeech. I Have never called anyone an A.sshole, Not a Fa.ggot Either and definetly Not more stereotypical Terms like Subhuman Ape (RiP Old Udyr Insults) but i have been a douchebag that should have been taken really serious, and i did get reported a fair share of times, and i find it not okay that you can legit Outplay the entire punishment system like that.

Hell, i sometimes see people who are GLOBALLY KNOWN To be Toxic get away after having thoroughly expressed themselves in my games and they get away each time aswell, because they simply know what words not to use.

Riot, with this post, i am with utmost heart and soul BEGGING YOU To Upgrade your Report System to punish more accurately and properly. Why do you even have a "Unsportsmanlike Behaviour" Report reason if it has not punished a single Person?

Most Sincere Regards Click R for Win.

6 Comments

archerno11 votes

All your test proves is that Riot allows trash talk to a certain degree. That Riot isnt conducting witch hunt on eveey kind of negativity. It also proves that League community isnt so rotten and that they dont report anything negative. Just because you talked trash in 50 games ,doesnt mean people took it seriously and reported you. I personally never report trash talk, only hate speech.

Eternal Torment1 votes

Well, they have so far directly stated that they do actually work against ANY form of negative behaviour that directly influences people. Badmannering is just another form of trashtalking, yet riot punishes badmannering so seriously it has become a meme, and since god fist lee sin's release the topic gained a lot of popularity.

So, how can i provoke someone with trashtalking and get punished, but i can completely get away if my trashtalk is a more direct Approach? I Find the lack of Logic disturbing.

archerno11 votes

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Well, they have so far directly stated that they do actually work against ANY form of negative behaviour that directly influences people. Badmannering is just another form of trashtalking, yet riot punishes badmannering so seriously it has become a meme, and since god fist lee sin's release the topic gained a lot of popularity.

So, how can i provoke someone with trashtalking and get punished, but i can completely get away if my trashtalk is a more direct Approach? I Find the lack of Logic disturbing.

Whole point is that people need to report you to get you punished. And if you arent taking direct approach, they dont really get offended and they dont care. Especially since your tests were conducted in normals. Noone actually sticks in lobby to report someone that said scum or pathetic.

Eternal Torment1 votes

and yet they did, a decent amount aswell too. 50 games means 5x50 thats 250 Players, you can bet that at the very least 20 Players, if not more, have actually reported me, which should be far more than enough to trigger an investigation. Just one report every game for 3 games is enough, actually. and if 3 reports are enough for an investigation, 20 should surely have triggered something. if it did not, then i question the very system in itself. sure, a big part did not care, people are cocky like that. they take toxicity for an desperate attempt of tilting them, but EVERYONE moving on without a care seems rather unrealistic, do you not agree?

archerno11 votes

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and yet they did, a decent amount aswell too. 50 games means 5x50 thats 250 Players, you can bet that at the very least 20 Players, if not more, have actually reported me, which should be far more than enough to trigger an investigation. Just one report every game for 3 games is enough, actually. and if 3 reports are enough for an investigation, 20 should surely have triggered something. if it did not, then i question the very system in itself. sure, a big part did not care, people are cocky like that. they take toxicity for an desperate attempt of tilting them, but EVERYONE moving on without a care seems rather unrealistic, do you not agree?

You cant prove that. You conducted test which is dependant on reports but you cant back it up with evidence that you got reported. Its possible that you didnt get any reports. Your test is incomplete and worthless without it.

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

i already adressed these issues years ago when riot decided to implement a so called AI and change the WHOLE system of report and punish, its fully automated now i believe.

basically the system simply takes inapropriate words/sentences, and links them together, and conducts an even punishment, regardless of situation. it updates the list of inapropriate words/sentences by x number of reports.

EXAMPLE below!

you are a dog : the system adds you + dog = x reports + X past punishments/reports = X punishment.

now if you want to avoid that you can say :

u r a d@g : and the sytem just ignores it cause not in list....

if there are MULTIPLE reports concerning these EXACT words (u r a d@g) the system updates and adds it to the list and it becomes punishable, its how it works, but that does mean, people have to accurately describe it.

hence why people get away with it.

riot simply made a pathing system out of scriptings and it is in no way anything amazing, they spiced it up by saying its an AI.

truth be told its just a dumb list of words/sentences that gets people punished, actual people cost too much i guess.

there used to be a tribunal, but they were not objective.

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