Is it really SO hard for junglers to gank in Silver?

TrikzterzArma·May 21, 2018·2 votes·1,628 views

In close to every single game I play, the jungler in my team doesn't gank anywhere.

Why? Is it so hard to gank?

19 Comments

SwiftKitten88May 21, 20187 votes

because they are lvl 3 when you're lvl 6 and they dont want to get near the opponent you fed and who is lvl 7/8

thanks to riot latest patch

Quiet DudeMay 21, 20182 votes

^^^

If you're going to feed your lane opponent and pee in the pool while I'm giving up skuttle to survive from a duelist JG, then you're gonna have to learn to swim in your own filth with the shark

Monkey With GunsMay 21, 20183 votes

Umm here are my thoughts about silver. Stomp lane and carry yourself or stay the rank you are. CounterJungle and CounterGank or stay the rank that you are. Support better or stay the rank that you are. The only thing that you can control is what YOU do. So if YOU can't carry, don't play ranked.

TrikzterzArmaMay 21, 20181 votes

Yeah well idk, that wasn't really what I asked about

Monkey With GunsMay 21, 20183 votes

Do you play jungle? If yes, then to answer your question, gank more. Do you play any other role? to answer your question, stop worrying about what the other people in your game are doing wrong and focus on what you can be doing to further your advantage. If you cant gain an advantage and create a spread with it consistently, without the help of your team mates, then you don't deserve to climb.

TrikzterzArmaMay 21, 20181 votes

I dont deserve to climb because Im in a 1v2 lane?

Monkey With GunsMay 21, 20183 votes

No, you don't deserve to climb because you can't Win the 1v2

TrikzterzArmaMay 21, 20181 votes

That's an extremely stupid statement

FOR JUSTICEMay 21, 20182 votes

Not really.

Even high elo players get camped, and they continually climb.

Youre also not taking advantage of the fact that your lane being camped means the jungler and your laner are just wasting their time because theyre diverting resources to someone who isnt dying easily. Unless of course you die.

AzadetheMay 21, 20182 votes

Junglers in the last week or two can't cope with the rate of lane feed Silvers exhibit. They got an XP nerf until level 8, so you need to understand that and play your lanes safer.

It's not their fault you can't lane properly, feed each lane 0/3 by level 6, while they are struggling to keep up with your unwarded, aggressive, full pushing lanes.

Learn to respect your enemies and pretend you know with 100% certainty that if you were to skirmish, you are going to die, not the enemy, and you'll find you and your junglers win more games.

TrikzterzArmaMay 21, 20181 votes

Yet the enemy jungler proceeds to permagank me?

TrikzterzArmaMay 21, 20181 votes

And btw, why are you talking like you know how my games are? I'm warding, I'm not pushing

AzadetheMay 21, 20182 votes

If the enemy jungler has an aggressive jungler who makes easy work of Scuttles, then yes. They will gank. Especially if they managed to invade and kill the other jungler.

But.... that's a "there can only be one winner" dynamic.

And to answer your second question: Your scores don't look like you don't push and don't ward. You consistently have 9-14 deaths as a main. That's preposterous. Even though Brand is one of the highest dps in the game, you often are on par with your team's damage as well. That tells me you don't fully utilize.

C9 Squeeky May 21, 20181 votes

What I hate is when the enemy jg constantly show themselves by ganking/camping a lane and your own jg doesn't do anything on the other side of the map. No counter jg, no neutral objective or gank of their own, just content farming their own jg being absent in the game.

DokkaebiMay 21, 20181 votes

If you lose a skill match up lane in your ranked game. Who ya gonna blame? Blame the jungler!

TrikzterzArmaMay 21, 20181 votes

Is it that you can't read my comments?

It's not that I lose my lane vs the enemy laner, it's that I lose because I'm permaganked by the enemy jungler, while my jungler never ganks at all

Tydo LegendFeb 24, 20201 votes

Silvers don't deserve ganks.. Even golds... Why risk helping someone that could either be good or not even know how to play at all.

BeersteinFeb 24, 20201 votes

This is a direct result of S10 jungle nerfs that everyone but jgs supposedly like. JG is extremely difficult to gank from this season and requires a higher skill level than Silvers possess, if they did, they would quickly leave Silver.

It's also impossible to gank certain lanes unless your laner is ahead by quite a bit (like Morde for example). It's impossible to gank Morde unless your solo laner can already 1v1 him and brings him low enough for you to come in and 1v1 him when your laner can't, which is pretty rare tbh given how far behind the JG is playing from.

As a JG, if you're getting permaganked it means you've very blatantly shown the enemy JG you don't know how to protect yourself from ganks, so yes, they're gonna take advantage of that in a big way.

All you usually have to do is hard shut down the enemies 1st gank where it feels like they did nothing but waste their time, and they probably won't come back even if you start playing stupid. But the second you reveal a weakness in your game that makes you an easy gank, they will take it over and over, that has nothing to do with your JG, that's YOU, and generally, your JG would be stupid to gank into that lane.

WarBugZeroMar 2, 20201 votes

Yes, they made a time machine and nerfed jungle in S8 or somewhere there, science is hard! That must be it! Or the alternative preposterous reason is you are necro'ing. I go with the time machine!