What is fair? (Tank vs ADC)

bad manner kid·Aug 20, 2015·1 votes·762 views

Reading many threads over the years there is a constant battle of two opinions:

I hate tanks, they can't die, they do too much damage for being invincible, carries should be able to kill them fast
Tanks are useless, I died to full build ADC in 4 auto attacks, I get melted instantly when I initiate

So what do we actually want in League of Legends? How many auto-attacks from Tristana or Vayne should a full armor/HP build be able to withstand? Should a 300 Armor 4000 hp Shen be able to out duel Vayne?

4 Comments

The WhamboozlerAug 20, 20152 votes

Whomever is more fed and plays the match-up better should win... It doesn't matter who that is. If a three item adc fights a 1 item tank, that tank should be dead meat unless he outplays the hell outta that adc. Same if it's the other way around. This problem is far too complicated for a simple "should tanks beat adcs in 1v1 fights"? It's a team game. There are a lot of tanks who do a lot of things and a lot of adcs who have a lot of different abilities as well, even if they are unified in being strong at auto attacking. People who say "OMG tanks are so weak" or "wtf, tanks 2 strong" are all freakin idiots. That statement is too vague to mean anything. People just want to whine and to hear other people whine too so they feel better about a game they lost or something.

bad manner kidAug 20, 20151 votes

{quoted}

Whomever is more fed and plays the match-up better should win... It doesn't matter who that is. If a three item adc fights a 1 item tank, that tank should be dead meat unless he outplays the hell outta that adc. Same if it's the other way around. This problem is far too complicated for a simple "should tanks beat adcs in 1v1 fights"? It's a team game. There are a lot of tanks who do a lot of things and a lot of adcs who have a lot of different abilities as well, even if they are unified in being strong at auto attacking. People who say "OMG tanks are so weak" or "wtf, tanks 2 strong" are all freakin idiots. That statement is too vague to mean anything. People just want to whine and to hear other people whine too so they feel better about a game they lost or something.

I think it's more about full build vs full build, level 18.

5000000000000000Aug 20, 20151 votes

In 1v1 situation, Tanks should usually beat ADCs unless that ADC is an anti-tank, a good duelist, or a good kiter. As in, if the tank can unload all the abilities on the ADC, the ADC should be pretty low from not having enough defenses.

In a team, the whole team needs to peel for the ADC. This includes the tank. In an ideal situation, the team should try to kill frontline first then back line. There's things like assassin and long-range abilities that can also damage the back line, but barring that for now. When the ADC is peeled properly, then the ADC is gonna be doing the most damage to the tank. That's what it means when people say "ADC counters tanks"