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I don't understand this Eve meta.

Xelvi·6/6/2015, 9:43:02 AM·2 votes·842 views

I don't understand this Eve meta. Her ult does absolutely no damage. SHE does no damage unless you build damage items, but that's always hard because she dies instantly if you don't build tank items. It just doesn't make any sense. She's DESIGNED to be bad, Riot nerfed her into uselessness because she was broken previously. Now she's a paper thin assassin that does no damage with an ult designed to let her skirmish for longer but the longer she's in a fight the more vulnerable she is... soooo....

Oh, and not to mention that if you don't do well early you become COMPLETELY useless, unlike pretty much every other jungler in the game who still retains some use. On top of that, she does even worse in solo queue than competitive play because people in solo q won't always ward for you or move quickly so she's extremely susceptible to invades which exacerbates her early game jungling weakness (her early game ganks are her only strength, and mid game ganks if she gets kills early). Either way she becomes almost totally useless late game unless she is insanely fed, but even then a 6 item Eve isn't going to do anything in team fights that devastating except give herself a 1000 HP shield... but so what?

I just don't get it.

Edit: Her win rate IN EVERY REGION both in solo queue and in the pro scene is atrocious... why persist with her? She is quantitatively terrible.

9 Comments

Photos of Ghosts6/6/2015, 9:53:06 AM2 votes

Actually a fed Eve is unbelievably tanky and has a huge DPS with her Q.

Hard4Hamsters6/6/2015, 10:03:07 AM2 votes

It's all about that passive. She's invisible so unless you spot her at jungle camps (when she won't be invisible) or invest in early pink wards, you have no idea where she is on the map, meaning she can exert A LOT of pressure on the map because you don't know where she is. Is she in your lane? Counter jungling? Taking Drag (probably not :P)? Is she bot, top, in base?

In addition, her early game damage isn't anything to scoff at. Her hate spikes damage adds up very quickly in addition to her autos. She can snowball lanes very hard if she can get some successful ganks off early. And that's really what it's all about. Her early game is very strong. Her late game straight up sucks, but that is negligible if she can exert enough GLOBAL pressure. You know who else has global pressure and a strong early game? RekSai And she is seen as a strong pick by the pros as well. She probably scales a little better, but she is also not invisible (though she can detect invisible enemies when burrowed).

Now. This doesn't mean that Evelynn is Freelo right now. She is actually kinda meh as a solo queue jungler, because people don't play around vision as much. You'd think this would be an advantage for Evelynn, but other junglers take better advantage of people not warding because they are more potent gankers. Evelynn likes it when people put down stealth wards because it means nothing to her.

Overall, Evelynn is in the pro meta because she can put down a lot of early game pressure. She cannot be spotted on the map and that has to be respected by the enemy team. Midlaners have to think twice about being aggressive in lane. Supports have to take risky paths to get vision on Evelynn inside of jungle camps, and Toplaners' Teleport might not make things a 3 v 2 in all situations. She has some of the most potent map pressure in the game, and that's why she's a good pick for pro players.

AkabaneKun6/6/2015, 9:56:48 AM1 votes

Eve isn't broken what's broken is stupid AP items like item 3285 .

jDVL20eCYs6/6/2015, 11:33:14 AM1 votes

she is op

Wumachine6/6/2015, 11:42:43 AM1 votes

she's a tier 1 jungler, her invisibility is what makes her early game op, she can just waltz into a lane and boom, first blood.

GuilIermo6/6/2015, 11:55:39 AM1 votes

Her ult does 15/20/25% max health instantly grants a 200ish shield for champion she hits. She is an invisible ward. She can clear fast and never oom because of her passive. And if she builds tanky she will have 4000-5000 ap ,and in teamfights she will have that 1000 shield

SEKAI6/6/2015, 9:48:04 AM1 votes

Maybe roaming is a big part atm, which Eve is at least still quite capable of.

Idk.

Oh well, I blame item 3285.

Skia Asteri6/6/2015, 3:11:39 PM1 votes

item 3078

Boom, tons of damage while still leaving a good few items slots for defense.

She is a strategic outplay champion. Not a mechanical outplay nor an overly high bundle of stats that kills everything in range without dying.

She has also maintained above a 50% win rate in Plat+ elo for four consecutive patches despite increasing play rate and decreasing average experience of players. http://champion.gg/champion/Evelynn/Jungle (previous games was about 128 at patch 5.7) Furthermore, her win rate goes up substantially as player experience increase, unlike trashy champions like LeeSin who do not even reach a 50% win rate for the highest experience bracket that site records.

Freelo? No. A champion with a definite set of strengths that can do well if you play to those strengths correctly? Yes.

lightdshadows6/6/2015, 9:55:19 AM1 votes

I actually just picked up Eve like 2 days ago out of curiosity. I build AP items w/ defensive attributes like MR/HP and such. I run AP chilling smite item and then depending on team comp i'm against I will rush Abyssal or Rylai's (if burst mage, abyssal so I can win 1v1, rylai if someone like Zed or a poke champ). From there, depending on how I'm doing I may build into Lich Bane or I may even go Hextech Gunblade. I have like a 70% win rate on her now in ranked. She's a very versatile champ and she creates a TON of pressure. She has a ton of damage early on and that's sort of what I rely on to carry.

I play her very similarly to Shaco. The Jungle isn't really your friend unless you're counter jungling. You would rather be sitting in someone's lane, or multiple lanes. If you get a kill, shove the lane (ignore the "QQ Don't push!") and get your xp that way. Do some jungling here and there to get your items but you should always be creating pressure. Burn summoner's and keep your laners safe, happy, and fed.

Good luck!