Daily reminder that Riot should quit the industry while showing such bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC_i_mHP-xo
EDIT: I am not saying she is overpowered. I am simply saying her kit should be limited to her kit, and not include whatever rule-breaking mechanic exploit they decide to abuse this month. If they want her to break CC, give it to her in her kit and compensate. If they don't want it, remove this shit or disable it.
what you deserve23 votesYet another patch and Shaco can't fucking proc thunderlord's decree with backstabs again.
TequilaZombie1 votesTo be honest, I don't even bother with picking Thunderlords anymore. I'm just going tanky with Fervor and calling it a day.
what you deserve2 votesI like one-shotting people and I could do it with my bruiser build if I COULD FUCKING PROC THUNDERLORD'S BECAUSE IT WORKED FINE LAST PATCH AND NOW I CAN'T CLIMB WITH MY FAVORITE PLAYSTYLE
I don't get it. They already fixed this exact problem, how'd they fuck it up again?
Lauchmelder3 votesMaybe it's balance? Cause, you know, a bruiser shouldn't be able to oneshot you. (Yes, they still do right now, damage is through the roof)
TequilaZombie8 votesThere is absolutely no balance at all in making one specific champion unnable to use something that the other 132 can use.
Lauchmelder1 votesThere's also absolutely no balance in giving ADs an item that pretty much fucks over APs in laning phase. Life ain't fair they told me.
TequilaZombie1 votesSo, how does the existence of 
relates to Shaco not being able to proc Thunderlords correctly?
Lauchmelder2 votesIt relates to "life ain't fair".
But if you want a similar case: Azirs E got a tooltip change to fit how the (bugged) ability actually works. Instead of fixing the bug they decided to nerf him once again. (Yes, it was a nerf if something that is supposed to be there plain out gets removed just because they didn't want to fix the bug).
TequilaZombie1 votesIs it about him using On-hit effects on his soldiers? In anyway it misses the point completely:
We're talking about Shaco being unnable to use something all other champions have avaible for them. It's like Riot decided that ADCs couldn't use Warlords Bloodlust because they already get to build lifesteal.
Azir was getting to use on-hit damage on his abilities, which is not the usual way that summons work (as we can see with Zyra's plants, Malz' Voidlings, Shaco's boxes and so on).
Two vastly different cases
Lauchmelder3 votesYou got the wrong Azir change down. It was about his E shield scaling with his hp that got removed because it didn't work like that for the past 5 or so months.
My point is: Azir has been in a far worse spot than Shaco is right now for the past 4+ months. Did the mains bitch about it as hard as Shaco players? No, they got better at a weak champion.
Is it a bug? Maybe. Does it matter? Not really.
Touch My Box1 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vpwGBFjG,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-16T14:58:11.181+0000)
You got the wrong Azir change down. It was about his E shield scaling with his hp that got removed because it didn't work like that for the past 5 or so months.
My point is: Azir has been in a far worse spot than Shaco is right now for the past 4+ months. Did the mains bitch about it as hard as Shaco players? No, they got better at a weak champion.
Is it a bug? Maybe. Does it matter? Not really.
Shaco has many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many more mains than Azir, and his playerbase is much more dedicated.
There are plenty of people who dodge or troll when they dont get him. Yet to see that on Azir.
Lauchmelder4 votesAnd this should result in treating Shaco and his players better? Just because there are more mains? No ty, don't need any more favoritism.
Touch My Box1 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vpwGBFjG,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-01-16T16:13:21.865+0000)
And this should result in treating Shaco and his players better? Just because there are more mains? No ty, don't need any more favoritism.
Didn't say they did, but you can't compare shaco mains to azir mains.
BTW, don't ever use 'Shaco' and 'Favoritism' in the same sentence without "has never been shown any" between it.
Take a stroll down memory lane and read through his changes since release. He is one of the few champions to never recieve buffs. It's just nerfs, bugfixes and minor reworks/rescales. The closest thing to a buff he received was when his clone copies his buffs.
Lauchmelder4 votesShaco had numerous buffs....
Elite4Runner17 votesYet another patch and people still think solving problems is as simple as it is for them to point them out.
Tsunderella55 votesYet another patch and people still think solving problems is as simple as it is for them to point them out.
They could always disable the toxic bitch until they figure out how to fix it.
TequilaZombie74 votesRioter #2: "Hey Rioter #1, Riven is able to dodge CC with her kit, maybe we should fix it or disable her for a day or two?" Rioter #1: "What? Why? Call it a feature and be done with it!"
Rioter #2: "On other news, Teemo is being able to get his passive AS 0.4 seconds faster while in bush. Should we feature it as well?" Rioter #1: " WHAT IN THE FAT FISHES OF A PHENOMENAL FAHRVERGNÜGEN FUCK IS GOING ON? Disable the bastard for a week! After the week is over we will work on him."
NonProdigy5 votesFahrvergnügen LOL where the fck did you get that from, lmfao
TequilaZombie1 votesA certain Busta Rhymes & Eminem song which I doubt I can say the name in those forums due to racially insulting slurs contained in it.
Hardstuck G43 votesHonestly, I think Busta and Eminem should just Calm Down if they're using words like that. Smh
UnoGetGoldELO13 votesFahrvergnügen is a harmless german word meaning nothing more but "Driveingentertainment" as in enjoying a ride wether by car or train.
"This bus ride i took to the other end of a city was a real fahrvergnügen"
as someone who grew up in germany it is a very old word though and rarely used by natives.
TequilaZombie13 votesI like how everything in german sounds so harsh that you need to specify that a certain word is harmless
Hahahahyena5 voteslegit thought it was like an insult that would end anyone's career but it was actually just an enjoyable car ride lmao
a special one2 votesoh dear.... this has been on riven forever, and requires great reactions and timing. on the other hand, teemo can just stand in a bush and keep hitting u while u cant ever hit him back, which is easy and really really op and annoying if u play versus it, anyone who says riven should be disabled isnt clever
TequilaZombie5 votesRequiring great reaction and timing is not an excuse for it to be allowed. It is a bug and it is bullshit. While Teemo can be annoying with his Akali shroud 2.0, Riven can negate basicly any CC thrown at her. I'd say both things are equally game breaking and should receive the same treatment.
Gnart Even Close4 votesThe Teemo bug was worse to my understanding. He was able to stay stealthed during combat and keep the attack speed buff so long as he stayed in brush. That is kind of gamebreaking.
The Riven CC bug just lets her use one ability through CC, but she stays stunned after the dash. The crowd-control isn't really being removed, just masked. It shouldn't be happening, but it's nowhere nearly as bad as a permanent attack speed buff and having stealth WHILE hitting people.
Furthermore, it's really hard to fix bugs. Anybody who's ever done any amount of programming knows that bugfixing is difficult and time intensive, even with really small programs. In a program less than 50 lines long, people can spend a solid 20 minutes trying to figure out why one specific output isn't working right, only to find out that it's because they're missing a semicolon in a function that another function called. Imagine scaling up to a program that's probably millions of lines long, where one individual person probably only knows what 10% of it does, and half the program is being held together by dark programming magic, and it's actually pretty amazing they manage to fix the bugs at all.
TequilaZombie8 votesI mean, I'm not defending Teemo, he should be disabled. But I do think that Riven, a champion whose weakness is CC, being able to avoid it is complete gamebreaking just as well (it's way worse when it's against displacements, tho, as she completely denies them).
Gnart Even Close1 votesonly displacements and knockdown effects are supposed to cancel dashes. other cc only applies at the end of the dash. regarding going through displacements, that's not THAT bad a bug, and they kept yasuo enabled during his bug where he got off an extra free auto during his ult which was honestly worse. and teemo had another bug recently where the DOT on his E procced TLD all by itself. i just don't think that the riven bug is worth a disable. should it be removed? absolutely. but i don't think riven should be disabled for it, as much as I would like to never have to deal with riven again
TequilaZombie2 votesAnd keeping Yasuo during his ult bug was just as much bullshit as the Riven CC cancel and how it would be to keep Teemo with the current bug.
I just can't see why they would leave a champion with such a bullshitty bug on live like this.
Touch My Box25 votesYet another patch and people still think solving problems is as simple as it is for them to point them out.
Its been known for ages. They aren't even making an effort to change it.
They should disable her until they fix it, because its gamebreaking. Champs have been disabled for less.
SEKAI5 votes[{quoted}](name=Its Not Shacko,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vpwGBFjG,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-01-16T11:45:15.200+0000)
Its been known for ages. They aren't even making an effort to change it.
They should disable her until they fix it, because its gamebreaking. Champs have been disabled for less.
A daily reminder that Teemo is still disabled, though thankfully I couldn't care less about him ha.
But you get the point.
Jorencice7 votesGamebreaking... lawl.
Pretty sure her winrate hasnt changed at all...
Weasel Kensei3 votesRiven isnt that popular compared to other champs. Her win% isnt that bad, and she has a very real corolation to her ban rate with her win%.
Observe this chart on her win%, ban%, play% and see that she is at one of her lower win% rates at the moment... while also being at her highest ban% atm.
http://www.lolking.net/champions/riven#/overview
A champ like this with a pool of dedicated players doesnt need bonus power to abuse in games. While I think "Gamebreaking" may be a bit of hyperbole, it certainly is a bad thing to have on a champ that bounces around like a superball and pretty much needs CC to take them down.
Touch My Box4 votes[{quoted}](name=Weasel Kensei,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vpwGBFjG,comment-id=0003000100010000,timestamp=2017-01-16T15:24:32.056+0000)
Riven isnt that popular compared to other champs. Her win% isnt that bad, and she has a very real corolation to her ban rate with her win%.
Observe this chart on her win%, ban%, play% and see that she is at one of her lower win% rates at the moment... while also being at her highest ban% atm.
http://www.lolking.net/champions/riven#/overview
A champ like this with a pool of dedicated players doesnt need bonus power to abuse in games. While I think "Gamebreaking" may be a bit of hyperbole, it certainly is a bad thing to have on a champ that bounces around like a superball and pretty much needs CC to take them down.
It might not be gamebreaking in the same sense as Azir infinite turret bug, but if it came down to Yasuo v Riven after a teamfight and she broke his knockup with this bug, killed him and won the game.. Id say it broke the game.
Automated Riven1 votesYas can still out her if she broke his cc. The knockup effect still happends she just moves through it. I will post a video later of proof.
xevi2 votesthis ^^ If you look in the video posted by OP, Adrian Riven eventually cc cancels yasuo nado but the white bar showing cc duration still moves even after the cancel meaning Riven is still knocked up even if there is no animation for it
There is also a video of box box cc canceling yasuo nado but still getting ult'd afterwards. I'll try to find that
Tsunderella16 votes"Riven can break CC at will? Better nerf Shaco!" - actual quote by Meddler
Mira Arya Enthe7 votesRiven with bug. 49% win rate. Shacko with no bug. 54% win rate.
GULAG 4 U4 votesShaco does have a bug, and it's a handicap
Mira Arya Enthe14 votesThis isn't a Riven specific problem. It is an old dash programming problem. It is most noticed on Riven because she is played a lot and the community hates her. It will take time to fix.
yay nibbers4 votesTristana and Ezreal do it and have been doing it since forever. Suddenly it's not okay for Riven to do it when someone finally points it out on the Boards? People here just look for any reason to complain about champs like Riven.
I'd like to see it fixed for all the champs that do this. Nothing more frustrating than hitting Tristana or Ezreal with a pull or stun or w/e only to have them fly away anyway.
Elikain6 votesI've not seen a single Riven do this, despite it being present for almost 20 days. Going to the channel this video is posted from, the OP states in the description:
the cc's on different champs work differently.
Why they didn't disable Riven or fix it yet is because it must not be an easy "exploit" to do. First things first, when that "150 Morde bugs" thread was floating around, a Rioter did come in and say that they are aware of his bugs and whether they can fix it early or not depends on the severity, resource allocation and how much time it's needed to do so. If his bugs happen with every R press for example, or they happen very rarely? Does his bug make him not able to use spells after it happens or nothing happens at all?
Which is the same for any champion. They disable only champions that can't wait and have pressing issues to fix. They also hotfix issues only when they really need to because hotfixes themselves may introduce more problems, because they haven't had the time to be tested on the PBE like normal patches are.
Riot isn't ignoring fixing any particular bugs. But they have to prioritize the work they're doing. Fixing bugs that are hard to replicate isn't a top priority.
dominusx5 votesyet another patch and poppy builds only tank items and does half a squishies health effortlesly. i can do this too
Touch My Box23 votesyet another patch and poppy builds only tank items and does half a squishies health effortlesly. i can do this too
That's numbers. Poppy was also just nerfed.
This is an issue that goes beyond the game. Riven is notorious for exploiting shitty third-rate coding and it only gets worse and worse until the playerbase says something.
How many years was it that Twitch couldn't hit Nexus/Inhibitor with his ultimate up, because Riot openly said they are too lazy to fix it because he was underplayed.
Risk of Fate3 votesI don't like Riven as much as the next guy (usually they feed their asses off when I have one on my team and I can't seem to catch them when they're on the enemy), but I think that this is a good thing for her given what the current state of the game is right now. If you remove this, you might as well remove the speed buff on Ahri and watch as both of their winrates plummet below 45% and effectively killing them.
This is not to say they're balanced, though I do think both are in a good spot right now. You have to figure that we have 
who has an ult that traps you, shield that's based off maximum health, and true damage Q plus more reliable mobility than she has. There's also 
who is a much more effective split pusher now since he can just ult and walk away.
Just my thoughts, but the way people complain, you'd think the only champs they want to play are 
Seriously though, if Skillshot champions are bs and point and click champs have no counterplay, what the hell do you consider balance? AoEs and channels?
Gregor Gysi7 votesI main Riven and I wouldn't mind the CC cancel removal (keep in mind that every champion with a dash can do half of the CC cancels that are shown in this video). So this is not a Riven specific problem and frankly, even if it was I wouldn't mind removing it. While OP claims that the CC cancel is available "on demand" it is actually super hard and I have never seen any Riven or any other champion doing it more than once in platinum.
Removing it wouldn't affect Riven's winrate by even 0.1% unless Riot fucks it up and somehow makes Rivens abilities/dashes in general buggy. Also, I've seen several people claim that they've seen a "CC cancel" while it really wasn't one.
Oleandervine3 votes[{quoted}](name=404 shitlord,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vpwGBFjG,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2017-01-16T14:21:31.420+0000)
I main Riven and I wouldn't mind the CC cancel removal (keep in mind that every champion with a dash can do half of the CC cancels that are shown in this video). So this is not a Riven specific problem and frankly, even if it was I wouldn't mind removing it. While OP claims that the CC cancel is available "on demand" it is actually super hard and I have never seen any Riven or any other champion doing it more than once in platinum.
Removing it wouldn't affect Riven's winrate by even 0.1% unless Riot fucks it up and somehow makes Rivens abilities/dashes in general buggy. Also, I've seen several people claim that they've seen a "CC cancel" while it really wasn't one.
I've been Sona, point blank to a Riven under an allied turret. I ulted her, she jumped at me, under the turret, and ignored my CC. It resulted in a kill, and then she just hopped out of turret range without taking practically any damage. This was in a normal game, and I'm not even remotely close to Platinum. This shit needs to be removed immediately. I'm tired of Riven cheesing this game and Riot saying "Oh, unintended mechanic is now mechanic you need to learn to master Riven. Not glitch. Promise."
Mira Arya Enthe4 votesIt only works on displacement. Nice try.
Oleandervine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Mira Arya Enthe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vpwGBFjG,comment-id=0007000100000002,timestamp=2017-01-16T16:47:45.223+0000)
It only works on displacement. Nice try.
She did though, she leapt towards me just as soon as she would have made contact with the ult, and evaded it entirely.
