CDR Health MORE shields and heals (those W/R heals though) And the AoE heal active
Like, I feel you could build it on every single champion and still get away with it. And Rylais was nerfed because it was too universal of an item.
Melledoneus12 votes
"It's time to ult my ADC..."
Activates redemption then ults
"HAHAHAHAHAHAA!"
Chaotic Reks1 votes[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]
The Yetii Rider6 votesIt's the first time we've had health and mana regen on the same item other than Eyestone in a long time. Lots of tanky champions would rather build mana regen than mana, and it stacks well with Hunter's Talisman. That's what is important.
KoKoboto2 votesWhy do tank champs want mana regen over mana?
EndlessSorcerer3 votesIf they are laning, they can stay out for quite a long time.
Mana sustain is rather useful for long-term trading and farming.
The Yetii Rider1 votesWhy do tank champs want mana regen over mana?
Same reason AP champs want it, because mana lets you case a few extra spells per back. Mana regen helps you sit out longer without backing. In particular, high mana regen helps you gank repeatedly.
MunchCrunchLunch3 votesRylais was too good. I mean think for asecond. it was the strongest utility item in game. perma slow on many ap champs. and yet it gave some of the best stats as well. I build the new rylais more than the old one because its still very good and its much cheaper.
redemption is op and needs a nerf tho. reduce AOE size and heal.
DarkRitual1 votesI think Redemption would be more balanced if it didn't build out of (and have the passive of) Idol. Perhaps Kindlegem instead if CDR is something that is decided it still needs.
ahferroin72 votesThe Idol is where the stats that matter to a support come from, I'd argue actually that they should get rid of the HP or HP regen. Those combined with the mana regen are what make it viable on anyone (even ignoring the active). Removing the mana regen and/or heal+shield boost would actually remove it from practicality on the class Riot wants it played on.
HazyCloud71 votesThey need to hit the heal. Not the build path, or the true damage, or the cdr, or the cost.
Hit the heal.
DarkRitual1 votesDropping the heal/shield boost hits the heal. While also making it less desirable on so many champions that it shouldn't be so good on.
WacingTheFind2 votesRedemption Yasuo?
Seems legit.
Maximum Morde2 votesI just stopped playing seriously and started playing Smite and Ignite only. Sometimes I feed, sometimes I hue my way to victory.
ChaddyFantome2 votesAnd Rylais was nerfed because it was too universal of an item.
Rylais was nerf'd because it was needlessly buffed to have way too much stats for the kind of item it was.
NiceTryVi7 votesHe isn't saying Rylai's shouldn't have received a nerf. He is saying with what they put on Redemption, the Rylai's nerf seems extreme and counterintuitive to Riot's objectives
ChaddyFantome1 votesHe isn't saying Rylai's shouldn't have received a nerf. He is saying with what they put on Redemption, the Rylai's nerf seems extreme and counterintuitive to Riot's objectives
I didn't say that he did. I was just correcting his incorrect assessment for the reason as to why it was nerf'd.
Rylais DEFINITELY needed the nerf, lmao.
HazyCloud72 votesHis assessment was not incorrect, Rylai's was universal BECAUSE of the insane gold efficiency.
ChaddyFantome1 votesHis assessment was not incorrect, Rylai's was universal BECAUSE of the insane gold efficiency.
And yet a good handful of midlaners didn't get it. Saying it was stupidly gold efficient is correct. Saying it was overpowered and needed nerfs is correct. Saying it was universal isn't quite so correct.
Mira Arya Enthe2 votesIt's a sign of the end times my friend. Get sum jebus and redeem thyself.
TyrekGoldenspear2 votesDO IT.
Send us the replay afterwards. XD
BurningDolphins 2 votesBuilt Redemption on Veigar because enemy yasuo kept oneshotting me. Get killed from the grave as I heal my entire team boy. Keep focusing mid son
XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes2 d rings into zhonya? If your team feeds him get randuin as laugh
Ahristocats1 votesthat's what i'm doing, building Redemption on every single jungler except if my support built it, because consecutive actives are reduced
SociopathFriend1 votesEesh, the downvote bots are at it again it seems
Valeckserai1 votes
Kill Karthus they said. His ult is down and he can't do anything they said. LOL.
agbudar1 votesyea the damage portion should go first tbh
Mysticman891 votesDo mordes shields count as shields in terms of masteries and that passive?
Since his shield is resource bar instead of a traditional shield that extends your health bar, I don't know the interaction on that one.
Pendergast8911 votesI've seen Trick2G rush it as jungle udyr.
RavenMagus1 votesNeed a support?
You could be literally playing a ward but as long as you build that (...and a sightstone) you're a good support.
falldown0101 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vlAYdZXU,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-12-20T09:26:00.239+0000)
CDR Health MORE shields and heals (those W/R heals though) And the AoE heal active
Like, I feel you could build it on every single champion and still get away with it. And Rylais was nerfed because it was too universal of an item.
please do xD if you combine it with windspeaker it should even be stronger
